Addressing a real need

FRPLG · 03-10-2005, 01:10 PM

We need both a CB and a WR before a DE. I think we'll have a shot at a stud WR and we should take him. If we don't then there are still some quality CBs we could go after. I don't think any of the DEs or CBs are stud quality but here are some who will be good players.

MTK · 03-10-2005, 01:19 PM

I'd still go WR if we keep the #9 pick.

I just don't see DE as huge need. It would be nice, but the D was just fine last year without a superstar pass rusher.

Getting LaVar back should help improve our pass rush options, as well the continued development of Clemons.

FRPLG · 03-10-2005, 01:24 PM

Yeah we have three real options with that pick. WR, CB or trade. None of the DEs offer the value needed at 9 I don't think. Gotta get value with your pick always. Glad we don't have a top 3 choice...it is going to be hard for those teams to get value up there this year. Seems like an awful weak draft at the top this year. The 7-9 type players are just as good if not better. It's all abut team needs this year.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-10-2005, 01:52 PM

That's right. I forgot about Clemons. He is FAST. I can't wait to see him used more.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-10-2005, 01:57 PM

A good blocking TE. What I mean by that, someone we can pick up in the later rounds that would be a great blocking back and catch the occassional pass.

skinsguy · 03-10-2005, 01:59 PM

Yeah, definitely a solid blocker, but someone who isn't afraid to catch a pass or two! Wow, if we could turn back time and bring Clint Diddier....but I would be happy with a Donny Warren as well.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-10-2005, 02:11 PM

I think we could find someone who is a steal in later rounds. Someone like Chris Cooley who is a playmker but we got for a bargain.

jdlea · 03-10-2005, 03:25 PM

The reason I'm putting this out there is because every mock draft I've seen has Williams and Edwards off the board before we pick.

offiss · 03-10-2005, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

The reason I'm putting this out there is because every mock draft I've seen has Williams and Edwards off the board before we pick.

Kiper has William's going to us at 9, and Edward's going to minnesota at 7, cleveland now that they signed Dilfer and Chicago are the team's I believe could gum up the work's for us depending, the key in the top 10 is the runningback's, there are 3 top flight back's which may push Edward's and William's to us, I think we will see some real surprises come draft day in the top 15.

FRPLG · 03-10-2005, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

Kiper has William's going to us at 9, and Edward's going to minnesota at 7, cleveland now that they signed Dilfer and Chicago are the team's I believe could gum up the work's for us depending, the key in the top 10 is the runningback's, there are 3 top flight back's which may push Edward's and William's to us, I think we will see some real surprises come draft day in the top 15.

The key in the top is who trades down. If it stays the way it is now we can be 99% assured of Edwards or Williams getting to us. But there will undoubtedly be trades that shake it all up. If we can't get Williams or Edwards we trade down for better value.

offiss · 03-10-2005, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

The key in the top is who trades down. If it stays the way it is now we can be 99% assured of Edwards or Williams getting to us. But there will undoubtedly be trades that shake it all up. If we can't get Williams or Edwards we trade down for better value.

I don't know if there will be much trading down in the top 7, team's that need a back which includes most of the top 6 won't find a franchise back late in the round, so I expect them to stay put, same with QB's this year, so I would say there are 5 team's who have the exact need's as what the top player's in this draft bring to the table, 3 RB's, and 2 qb's, if a back isn't available for Arizona, they could very well deal out of the 8 spot, but we all know every year player's start dropping who no one thought would, Wilfork, jackson, Jones last year to name a few.

RedskinPete · 03-11-2005, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I think we could find someone who is a steal in later rounds. Someone like Chris Cooley who is a playmker but we got for a bargain.

I like Cooley but a steal? He cost a 2nd round pick in this draft! Not such a steal! By the way we picked him in the 3rd round of 04 draft! Now if we picked him up for a 4th round pick or later I say you were right!

Redskins8588 · 03-11-2005, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RedskinPete

I like Cooley but a steal? He cost a 2nd round pick in this draft! Not such a steal! By the way we picked him in the 3rd round of 04 draft! Now if we picked him up for a 4th round pick or later I say you were right!

Yeah we gave up a second round pick in this years draft for him, but look at what he did for our team too!! Yeah Cris Cooley was a steal, he easily out-performed everyone else that was drafted at TE last year and did more than what was really expected out of a rookie.

It may have cost us a 2nd round pick but I would give that up everytime and twice on Sunday for a player of Cooley's caliber!!!

SkinsRock · 03-11-2005, 10:25 AM

I believe in the "best available player, regardless of position" philosophy for the draft....And from what Gibbs has said, I think the Skins feel the same way. Was FS our biggest need last year? I didn't think so, but Taylor was too good to pass up. They have tried to fill any holes through FA or promoting from within. This gives them they advantage in terms of trading to move in a spot to draft a certain player, but if it doesn't work, they aren't limited to having to find a player that plays a specific position. Of course this doesn't always work, but the idea behind it is good.
That said, I don't think WR is our biggest need, but if we ended up with someone like Williams, I wouldn't be upset. I don't really follow college ball, so I mainly go by what I read about them, so it seems like we have a couple decent options, whether it be a WR, CB, DE, or trading down to gain another pick or two.

RedskinPete · 03-11-2005, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Yeah we gave up a second round pick in this years draft for him, but look at what he did for our team too!! Yeah Cris Cooley was a steal, he easily out-performed everyone else that was drafted at TE last year and did more than what was really expected out of a rookie.

It may have cost us a 2nd round pick but I would give that up everytime and twice on Sunday for a player of Cooley's caliber!!!

I did say that the pick wasn't good or even great! Cooley had a good year not a great year. I believe his best year are to come! But a steal NO!!! I Believe that a 2nd pick and a first for the most part should be that good! Look at some of our 2nd round picks Jansen,Smoot and Jacobe not to bad! On the other had first rounders like Gardner have only been so so! Then you look at out middle and late drafts of late not so good if not Bad! So you better make picks like Cooley are you are in real trouble! A steal no! A good pick yes!

03-10-2005, 01:10 PM	#1
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	Re: Addressing a real need We need both a CB and a WR before a DE. I think we'll have a shot at a stud WR and we should take him. If we don't then there are still some quality CBs we could go after. I don't think any of the DEs or CBs are stud quality but here are some who will be good players.

03-10-2005, 01:19 PM	#2
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,048	Re: Addressing a real need I'd still go WR if we keep the #9 pick. I just don't see DE as huge need. It would be nice, but the D was just fine last year without a superstar pass rusher. Getting LaVar back should help improve our pass rush options, as well the continued development of Clemons. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-10-2005, 01:24 PM	#3
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	Re: Addressing a real need Yeah we have three real options with that pick. WR, CB or trade. None of the DEs offer the value needed at 9 I don't think. Gotta get value with your pick always. Glad we don't have a top 3 choice...it is going to be hard for those teams to get value up there this year. Seems like an awful weak draft at the top this year. The 7-9 type players are just as good if not better. It's all abut team needs this year.

03-10-2005, 01:52 PM	#4
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Addressing a real need That's right. I forgot about Clemons. He is FAST. I can't wait to see him used more. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-10-2005, 01:57 PM	#5
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Addressing a real need A good blocking TE. What I mean by that, someone we can pick up in the later rounds that would be a great blocking back and catch the occassional pass. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-10-2005, 01:59 PM	#6
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Addressing a real need Yeah, definitely a solid blocker, but someone who isn't afraid to catch a pass or two! Wow, if we could turn back time and bring Clint Diddier....but I would be happy with a Donny Warren as well. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

03-10-2005, 02:11 PM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Addressing a real need I think we could find someone who is a steal in later rounds. Someone like Chris Cooley who is a playmker but we got for a bargain. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-10-2005, 03:25 PM	#8
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: Addressing a real need The reason I'm putting this out there is because every mock draft I've seen has Williams and Edwards off the board before we pick.

03-11-2005, 10:25 AM	#14
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 56 Posts: 907	Re: Addressing a real need I believe in the "best available player, regardless of position" philosophy for the draft....And from what Gibbs has said, I think the Skins feel the same way. Was FS our biggest need last year? I didn't think so, but Taylor was too good to pass up. They have tried to fill any holes through FA or promoting from within. This gives them they advantage in terms of trading to move in a spot to draft a certain player, but if it doesn't work, they aren't limited to having to find a player that plays a specific position. Of course this doesn't always work, but the idea behind it is good. That said, I don't think WR is our biggest need, but if we ended up with someone like Williams, I wouldn't be upset. I don't really follow college ball, so I mainly go by what I read about them, so it seems like we have a couple decent options, whether it be a WR, CB, DE, or trading down to gain another pick or two.

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