Could the Skins have the best offensive line in the division?

[Longtimefan]

Time will tell. The system being deployed requires a lot of repetition, if they remain healthy and be able to consistently extend those reps, they could eventually develop into a formidable o/line. It's much too soon to anoint them anything other than a work in progress at this point.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Time will tell. The system being deployed requires a lot of repetition, if they remain healthy and be able to consistently extend those reps, they could eventually develop into a formidable o/line. It's much too soon to anoint them anything other than a work in progress at this point.

The other thing about the system is that it makes the lineman look better then they really are. In Madden terms, for lack of a better example, you could possibly add 4 or 5 points to a players rating.

[NYCskinfan82]

I think our FO has saw a weakness and brought people in to compete.

HTTR.

[GusFrerotte]

Sorry, you can't go from worst to best with the acquisition of one top draft pick and one pro bowler. If you throw in the TE then we aren't bad, but the best? Come on, we sucked last year. The rook has yet to play a down in the NFL so God only knows if he is going to pan out. He most likely will, but not in a way to make our O line go last to first in a span of one season. Brown was the best acquisition via FA in a long time, and yes I am including McNabb in that, but we just plain have no depth. Other than our two newbies who do we have that is really all that great?

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Sorry, you can't go from worst to best with the acquisition of one top draft pick and one pro bowler. If you throw in the TE then we aren't bad, but the best? Come on, we sucked last year. The rook has yet to play a down in the NFL so God only knows if he is going to pan out. He most likely will, but not in a way to make our O line go last to first in a span of one season. Brown was the best acquisition via FA in a long time, and yes I am including McNabb in that, but we just plain have no depth. Other than our two newbies who do we have that is really all that great?

Yes you can. All that is needed is the O-line to hold off the D-line for 2 seconds more than last years line. Dont forget we have a QB that can make his mind up and throw the ball. 2 seconds will make your line go from last to top 10 in a heart beat regardless of playing time.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Sorry, you can't go from worst to best with the acquisition of one top draft pick and one pro bowler. If you throw in the TE then we aren't bad, but the best? Come on, we sucked last year. The rook has yet to play a down in the NFL so God only knows if he is going to pan out. He most likely will, but not in a way to make our O line go last to first in a span of one season. Brown was the best acquisition via FA in a long time, and yes I am including McNabb in that, but we just plain have no depth. Other than our two newbies who do we have that is really all that great?

2/5.. that's 40%

2 very solid pieces on the line will help a lot.. if you look at some of the best lines not every player is the best at their position.. or even top 5..

1 great player at a line position can change the line and open up opportunities... losing one can ruin it

nobody has a very solid line vs the pass rush in our division other than the giants and most of us have a pretty decent run line so basically it's a 3-way battle with NYG to see who has the best line

[Dirtbag59]

Best Offensive Lines in the League:
1. Jets - Any line that can protect a rookie QB and help lead a 31 year old running back to 1,400 yards rushing is always a candidate for best in the league.

2. Titans - A big part of Johnson's 2,000 yard season was the unit he had up front. The Titans have the best pair of bookends in the league with Michael Roos and David Stewart.

3. Saints - Best Guard tandem in the league by a mile and so much depth that they could afford to give us Jamamal Brown for what should qualify as nothing more than a tax write off.

4. Ravens - Gaither, Oher, Grubbs, and Birk. Guys who have either been to the pro bowl or are easily capable of making it one day. The quality in this group is scary

5. Vikings - One of the best left sides in the league with Mckinnie and Hutchinson though not as productive as they were a few years ago.

6. Dolphins - Very close to the Titans in terms of best bookends in Long and Carey.

7. Buccaneers - Say what you want about BA's time in Tampa, one area he didn't neglect was the Offensive Line. Had Aaron Sears not run into certain problems this unit would have been ranked higher.

8. Panthers - Jordan Gross and Jeff Otah round out the outside while my favorite Center Ryan Kalil is joined by former tackle Travelle Warton. Duke Robinson is a backup.

9. Browns - Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, and Alex Mack are a great start to this line. Tony Pashos and Floyd Womack do a nice job rounding out the right side.

10. Redskins - If Trent Williams develops into what we think he can be then this unit will shoot straight to the top 3. They also have a lot of young guys coming up on the interior.

Other great lines: 49ers, Giants, Jaguars..

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Best Offensive Lines in the League:
1. Jets - Any line that can protect a rookie QB and help lead a 31 year old running back to 1,400 yards rushing is always a candidate for best in the league.

2. Titans - A big part of Johnson's 2,000 yard season was the unit he had up front. The Titans have the best pair of bookends in the league with Michael Roos and David Stewart.

3. Saints - Best Guard tandem in the league by a mile and so much depth that they could afford to give us Jamamal Brown for what should qualify as nothing more than a tax write off.

4. Ravens - Gaither, Oher, Grubbs, and Birk. Guys who have either been to the pro bowl or are easily capable of making it one day. The quality in this group is scary

5. Vikings - One of the best left sides in the league with Mckinnie and Hutchinson though not as productive as they were a few years ago.

6. Dolphins - Very close to the Titans in terms of best bookends in Long and Carey.

7. Buccaneers - Say what you want about BA's time in Tampa, one area he didn't neglect was the Offensive Line. Had Aaron Sears not run into certain problems this unit would have been ranked higher.

8. Panthers - Jordan Gross and Jeff Otah round out the outside while my favorite Center Ryan Kalil is joined by former tackle Travelle Warton. Duke Robinson is a backup.

9. Browns - Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, and Alex Mack are a great start to this line. Tony Pashos and Floyd Womack do a nice job rounding out the right side.

10. Redskins - If Trent Williams develops into what we think he can be then this unit will shoot straight to the top 3. They also have a lot of young guys coming up on the interior.

Other great lines: 49ers, Giants, Jaguars..

The one thing I notice is most of these lines are good based off of production from last year. This Skins line hasn't even been through training camp yet. I hope they will be as good as people are thinking they can be. But I like to reserve judgement until I can see something more concrete.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Best Offensive Lines in the League:
1. Jets - Any line that can protect a rookie QB and help lead a 31 year old running back to 1,400 yards rushing is always a candidate for best in the league.

2. Titans - A big part of Johnson's 2,000 yard season was the unit he had up front. The Titans have the best pair of bookends in the league with Michael Roos and David Stewart.

3. Saints - Best Guard tandem in the league by a mile and so much depth that they could afford to give us Jamamal Brown for what should qualify as nothing more than a tax write off.

4. Ravens - Gaither, Oher, Grubbs, and Birk. Guys who have either been to the pro bowl or are easily capable of making it one day. The quality in this group is scary

5. Vikings - One of the best left sides in the league with Mckinnie and Hutchinson though not as productive as they were a few years ago.

6. Dolphins - Very close to the Titans in terms of best bookends in Long and Carey.

7. Buccaneers - Say what you want about BA's time in Tampa, one area he didn't neglect was the Offensive Line. Had Aaron Sears not run into certain problems this unit would have been ranked higher.

8. Panthers - Jordan Gross and Jeff Otah round out the outside while my favorite Center Ryan Kalil is joined by former tackle Travelle Warton. Duke Robinson is a backup.

9. Browns - Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, and Alex Mack are a great start to this line. Tony Pashos and Floyd Womack do a nice job rounding out the right side.

10. Redskins - If Trent Williams develops into what we think he can be then this unit will shoot straight to the top 3. They also have a lot of young guys coming up on the interior.

Other great lines: 49ers, Giants, Jaguars..

I highlighted the bucs for obvious reasons. I think this is more indicitive as to were the OL is heading in the future.

If BA built a line in Tampa then you know his first order of business would be to get ours fixed. He understands where it all starts in football.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

I highlighted the bucs for obvious reasons. I think this is more indicitive as to were the OL is heading in the future.

If BA built a line in Tampa then you know his first order of business would be to get ours fixed. He understands where it all starts in football.

Actually I might have jumped the gun the Buc's. Fact of the matter is that they're among the most talented units in the league but their production leaves something to be desired. Maybe in a different situation they would be a lot better, say with another running back or a more seasoned QB but the fact of the matter is that based on what we know the only thing they have going for them is their raw talent.

Of course part of it could be the coaching. The Redskins had a very talented offensive line under Spurrier but looked horrible thanks to the system. When Gibbs came in the line shot back up to among the leagues best units. Then of course Zorn came in and years of drafting skilled players over lineman came back to bite us in the ass.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I believe we can do it. We just have alot of ifs is all. But it is possible by the end of the year to have a top tier unit.

[GusFrerotte]

Yeah, but you only have 3 new guys to work with, and the one G from Minnesota is an older vet. The rest are either bums or guys that are injury prone. Also, thus far in the preseason rags, all we have done is go from being predicted dead last in the division as we have for basically the past 4 years, to being almost unanimously picked 3rd, so obviously a lot of sportswriters don't think our draftee or Pro Bowl acquisition are going to propel us to being all that special. Our problem has more to do with depth than anything.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Yeah, but you only have 3 new guys to work with, and the one G from Minnesota is an older vet. The rest are either bums or guys that are injury prone. Also, thus far in the preseason rags, all we have done is go from being predicted dead last in the division as we have for basically the past 4 years, to being almost unanimously picked 3rd, so obviously a lot of sportswriters don't think our draftee or Pro Bowl acquisition are going to propel us to being all that special. Our problem has more to do with depth than anything.

This is such a glass half empty post. We actually added 5 total lineman, and 1 TE who looks to be a bone crushing blocking TE(hopefully). So that is 6 new faces. 2 top talent OT's; one consistent performing OL who has played OT and OG; a C who was expected to go higher, an OT who protected his Left Handed QB's blind side most or all of his college career, and a bone crushing TE. Basically, it looks like MS/BA added a ton of depth and quality starters to the ends of our line, I believe the middle of the line was fairly solid, but if the ends need help every play the middle is going to collapse!

[GusFrerotte]

We needed to draft another linemen or two. We didn't need that small WR from UCLA and that TE was a wasted pick as well.

[warpaint]

IDK that TE looks like a beast maybe he can do something in Special Teams. That small WR I believe will be a return guy. Lets just pray that these two can help out on ST because we all know we've lacked a certain pop there.