90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?

PSUSkinsFan21 · 03-22-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Whoa there PSU. Think people were just poking fun at college athletics in general. I am pretty sure no one was slamming Penn State or Paterno - just a little light hearted ribbing. No need to get bent out of shape.

Understood. Sorry if the backlash was too harsh. General joking about college athletics I can appreciate, but I take it personally when it comes at the expense of one of the cleanest programs in college sports. I just think it's ironic that the jokes are being made about a PSU player when I'm sure we have some FSU and Miami players on our team that would be more fitting targets.
I mean come on, LaVar's favorite way to pass time is playing Chess for goodness sake. LOL

Daseal · 03-22-2005, 11:29 AM

Sorry PSUSkinsFan - If you're a star, doesn't matter where you go. Academic standards are relaxed for you, with the possible exception of Notre Dame (who can't land a star anymore so that's not a problem.) These kids don't go to college for the degree, they go to play in the NFL. I'm one that thinks the NCAA should pay them. Or at least give them a decent amount of spending money every month. They can't get a job because they're playing sports, and some of them don't have the resources to help them buy food, clothes, etc. So they get an education that most of the time they can skip classes and get a diploma that means shit. Bleh!

PSUSkinsFan - I'm not ripping PSU, but I'm sure they have more than their share of NCAA violations. Every school does. Especially when trying to recruit a winning football team. Every college does.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 03-22-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Sorry PSUSkinsFan - If you're a star, doesn't matter where you go. Academic standards are relaxed for you, with the possible exception of Notre Dame (who can't land a star anymore so that's not a problem.) These kids don't go to college for the degree, they go to play in the NFL. I'm one that thinks the NCAA should pay them. Or at least give them a decent amount of spending money every month. They can't get a job because they're playing sports, and some of them don't have the resources to help them buy food, clothes, etc. So they get an education that most of the time they can skip classes and get a diploma that means shit. Bleh!

PSUSkinsFan - I'm not ripping PSU, but I'm sure they have more than their share of NCAA violations. Every school does. Especially when trying to recruit a winning football team. Every college does.

Again, show me facts or don't bother going there with me on this one. I challenge you to find any NCAA violations on JoePa's team regarding academics. I'm not interested in arguing in the abstract here. Give me facts or accept that you know not of that which you speak.

That Guy · 03-22-2005, 11:30 AM

Sarcasm

SKINSnCANES · 03-22-2005, 11:51 AM

I wonder if Portis and Taylor were there. I know last week they were definitly at UM working out, but that doesnt mean they didnt fly back. Last year Portis went to the voluntary workouts, which says a lot for anyone from the U. Im sure Taylor will follow whatever Portis does. Either way I think everyone that is goiogn to be on the team was at the workouts, Gibbs seems to really be instilling a new attitude.

Daseal · 03-22-2005, 11:57 AM

Gibbs basicly said don't come to the involuntary workouts, don't come for the season. I bet they were there.

Gmanc711 · 03-22-2005, 11:58 AM

I heard talk about how excited Portis was and everything; and how he was taking a bigger role, so Im assuming he is there. I also heard a rumor that Taylor is working on a new contract (already?); so it'd be pretty dumb of him not to go.

That Guy · 03-22-2005, 12:12 PM

taylor cant open negoitiations officially until aug 1st. Portis WAS at the first workout day, they wrote up a paragraph on how happy he was to be there early and all that.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-22-2005, 01:17 PM

Maybe Portis can put on a little more beef. I don't want to lose a lot of speed, I'd just love to see him bulk up a bit.

SkinsRock · 03-22-2005, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Maybe Portis can put on a little more beef. I don't want to lose a lot of speed, I'd just love to see him bulk up a bit.

I agree. A little bulk to break tackles better would more than make up for any slight loss of speed. The fact that he is there and is vocal shows that he is committed to the team....and also, considering that he seems to have a very good relationship with Gibbs (calling him from wherever about Moss, etc), perhaps thetwo of them have talked about him doing just that (putting on a little more beef).

John Hasbrouck · 03-22-2005, 01:51 PM

Portis sure could fit the role as a vocal leader.People who live in glass tee-pees should not throw footballs.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-22-2005, 03:33 PM

I bet Portis and Gibbs sip Crys'.

Daseal · 03-22-2005, 05:42 PM

I said NCAA violations. They all did it. My step-sister signed her letter of intent a few days ago to play soccer for a D1 school. They gave her a schedule of what she "was supposed to" do (had) and it broke NCAA regulations. Everyone does it, I wouldn't be suprised one bit to find out Penn State boosters give their starts cash under the table.

wolfeskins · 03-22-2005, 06:17 PM

we can't find facts to support it , if we could find them, just think how easy it would be for the ncaa to find them and that would spell trouble for penn state or any other school for that matter. i would bet money that they've made thier share of violations though.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 03-23-2005, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I said NCAA violations. They all did it. My step-sister signed her letter of intent a few days ago to play soccer for a D1 school. They gave her a schedule of what she "was supposed to" do (had) and it broke NCAA regulations. Everyone does it, I wouldn't be suprised one bit to find out Penn State boosters give their starts cash under the table.

Wolfeskins: we can't find facts to support it , if we could find them, just think how easy it would be for the ncaa to find them and that would spell trouble for penn state or any other school for that matter. i would bet money that they've made thier share of violations though.

Like I said. Speculation, speculation, speculation. If PSU has outstanding academic NCAA violations, you would hear about it just like you do when any other college gets in trouble or sanctioned for not following the rules. And the soccer analogy would be a recruiting violation, not an academic violation.
You know what, let me try it this way:
EVERY baseball player is on steroids.
EVERY hockey player supports the strike.
EVERY person who lives in Philadelphia is an Eagles fan.
EVERY Dallas Cowboy is a criminal. (ok, well this one may have some stock).
Get the point? Just because it's true for some, doesn't mean there are not exceptions. If you want to believe that the programs that strive to remain above board (like PSU, Michigan, UVA, Notre Dame) are just as guilty as the rest, or that they have their "fair share" of violations, or for that matter any violations, and that PSU players don't have to do their own school work and that Paterno doesn't bench them for missing classes or doing poorly, then I suppose there is nothing I can do about that because you must know more than I about my own alma mater. But when you make blind and unsupported accusations to the public, I'll be here to point out that none of the facts support you.
Now that I'm sure everyone is sick of reading this rant, back to Redskins football.

By the way, I LOVE that Arrington was a surprise show at the voluntary workout when others on this site who claim to be Skins fans were so quick to SPECULATE that he wasn't there. Nothing satisfies me more than when the FACTS make people eat crow. Guess he might have learned something about dedication and work ethic after all from that corrupt JoePa and his violation ridden program.

03-22-2005, 11:29 AM	#2
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 8,341	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Sorry PSUSkinsFan - If you're a star, doesn't matter where you go. Academic standards are relaxed for you, with the possible exception of Notre Dame (who can't land a star anymore so that's not a problem.) These kids don't go to college for the degree, they go to play in the NFL. I'm one that thinks the NCAA should pay them. Or at least give them a decent amount of spending money every month. They can't get a job because they're playing sports, and some of them don't have the resources to help them buy food, clothes, etc. So they get an education that most of the time they can skip classes and get a diploma that means shit. Bleh! PSUSkinsFan - I'm not ripping PSU, but I'm sure they have more than their share of NCAA violations. Every school does. Especially when trying to recruit a winning football team. Every college does.

03-22-2005, 11:30 AM	#4
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Sarcasm

03-22-2005, 11:51 AM	#5
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,455	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? I wonder if Portis and Taylor were there. I know last week they were definitly at UM working out, but that doesnt mean they didnt fly back. Last year Portis went to the voluntary workouts, which says a lot for anyone from the U. Im sure Taylor will follow whatever Portis does. Either way I think everyone that is goiogn to be on the team was at the workouts, Gibbs seems to really be instilling a new attitude. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

03-22-2005, 11:57 AM	#6
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 8,341	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Gibbs basicly said don't come to the involuntary workouts, don't come for the season. I bet they were there.

03-22-2005, 11:58 AM	#7
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 40 Posts: 7,506	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? I heard talk about how excited Portis was and everything; and how he was taking a bigger role, so Im assuming he is there. I also heard a rumor that Taylor is working on a new contract (already?); so it'd be pretty dumb of him not to go. __________________ #21

03-22-2005, 12:12 PM	#8
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? taylor cant open negoitiations officially until aug 1st. Portis WAS at the first workout day, they wrote up a paragraph on how happy he was to be there early and all that.

03-22-2005, 01:17 PM	#9
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 45 Posts: 19,272	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Maybe Portis can put on a little more beef. I don't want to lose a lot of speed, I'd just love to see him bulk up a bit. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-22-2005, 01:51 PM	#11
John Hasbrouck Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 180	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Portis sure could fit the role as a vocal leader.People who live in glass tee-pees should not throw footballs.

03-22-2005, 03:33 PM	#12
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 45 Posts: 19,272	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? I bet Portis and Gibbs sip Crys'. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-22-2005, 05:42 PM	#13
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 8,341	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? I said NCAA violations. They all did it. My step-sister signed her letter of intent a few days ago to play soccer for a D1 school. They gave her a schedule of what she "was supposed to" do (had) and it broke NCAA regulations. Everyone does it, I wouldn't be suprised one bit to find out Penn State boosters give their starts cash under the table.

03-22-2005, 06:17 PM	#14
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? we can't find facts to support it , if we could find them, just think how easy it would be for the ncaa to find them and that would spell trouble for penn state or any other school for that matter. i would bet money that they've made thier share of violations though.

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