The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread

saden1 · 09-28-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm not for firing Haslett at this point and I don't think we'll end up as bad defensively as we have been the past couple of weeks...but Haslett, you'll recall, wasn't Shanahan's first choice. Will be interesting to see if he's able to lure his first choice over next season

If things don't get better, how can they not when you're dead last, he will most certainly be fired at the end of the season. Shanahan having GTripp0012 Vision™ not withstanding of course.

GTripp0012 · 09-28-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm not for firing Haslett at this point and I don't think we'll end up as bad defensively as we have been the past couple of weeks...but Haslett, you'll recall, wasn't Shanahan's first choice. Will be interesting to see if he's able to lure his first choice over next season

Is Mike Zimmer's contract up at the end of this season?

Defensewins · 09-28-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm not for firing Haslett at this point and I don't think we'll end up as bad defensively as we have been the past couple of weeks...but Haslett, you'll recall, wasn't Shanahan's first choice. Will be interesting to see if he's able to lure his first choice over next season

I agree completely. He will not be fired this year. If things do not improve soon I do not see Haslett here next year.

mooby · 09-28-2010, 05:20 PM

What's really concerning to me is how many points we are giving up in the second half. Against Dallas we gave up a touchdown in the second half and it would've been two touchdowns if Alex Barron wasn't such a crappy player, and we'd also be sitting at 0-3 instead of 1-2 if it wasn't for him. Against Houston we were outscored 20-7 in the second half and against the Rams we were outscored 16-3 in the second half. It's an unsettling trend that needs to be reversed if we are going to win games this season.

#56fanatic · 09-29-2010, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

What's really concerning to me is how many points we are giving up in the second half. Against Dallas we gave up a touchdown in the second half and it would've been two touchdowns if Alex Barron wasn't such a crappy player, and we'd also be sitting at 0-3 instead of 1-2 if it wasn't for him. Against Houston we were outscored 20-7 in the second half and against the Rams we were outscored 16-3 in the second half. It's an unsettling trend that needs to be reversed if we are going to win games this season.

I agree 100%. We have absolutely no reliable ground game to lean on, and no one other that cooley that can get open on 3rd down. Boy, that sounds really familiar doesn't it!!

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-28-2010, 05:30 PM

4-3...

CrustyRedskin · 09-28-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

4-3...

"Dreaming of what a Carter, Golston, Haynesworth, and Orakpo d-line would have looked like in the 4-3."

I think it would have been a nightmare for an offense. Why fix whats not really even leaking?

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-28-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

"Dreaming of what a Carter, Golston, Haynesworth, and Orakpo d-line would have looked like in the 4-3."

I think it would have been a nightmare for an offense. Why fix whats not really even leaking?

So we can go with the trends of the rest of the NFL.

I stated this earlier in this thread. Converting DEs to starting OLBs is not the way to successfully convert to the 3-4. Carter, Rak, and Zo struggle in pass coverage. AND that is putting it lightly. Rocky and Fletch are much more adapt to coverage because they are real LB.

We will continue to struggle this year, unless our DE figure out how to play in coverage.

BTW Rak's sacks all came last year when he had his had in the dirt on the opposite side of Carter and AH.

I completely agree with you. Why did this have to change?

saden1 · 09-28-2010, 05:48 PM

What are the odds we hire a defensive consultant by mid season? I'm putting it at 50/50.

Defensewins · 09-28-2010, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

What are the odds we hire a defensive consultant by mid season? I'm putting it at 50/50.

Are there any calling bingo or playing canasta available?

saden1 · 09-28-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

Are there any calling bingo or playing canasta available?

Most likely fly fishing though I wouldn't bet on their preferred method of leisure.

skinsfan69 · 09-28-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

What are the odds we hire a defensive consultant by mid season? I'm putting it at 50/50.

that's not going to happen under this regime. i think it's safe to say those days are over.

SirClintonPortis · 09-28-2010, 08:24 PM

Rak is rushing more often than not and has one year of LB experience under his belt. Its Carter who's really stinking it up.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-28-2010, 08:44 PM

I never said he isnt, he is doing it standing up instead of a three point stance

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-29-2010, 06:29 AM

London Fletcher actually said as much the other day. Basicaly stating that we are getting burnt in our subpackages, which is our nickel and coverage packages. These packages are not 3-4 base, but actually 4-3 based.

I don't know if we can believe him, I watched the game. All the packages are getting torched!

Here is the link. London Fletcher Says The 3-4 Is Not To Blame
Chalk it up to players Speak.

09-28-2010, 05:20 PM	#4
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,596	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread What's really concerning to me is how many points we are giving up in the second half. Against Dallas we gave up a touchdown in the second half and it would've been two touchdowns if Alex Barron wasn't such a crappy player, and we'd also be sitting at 0-3 instead of 1-2 if it wasn't for him. Against Houston we were outscored 20-7 in the second half and against the Rams we were outscored 16-3 in the second half. It's an unsettling trend that needs to be reversed if we are going to win games this season.

09-28-2010, 05:30 PM	#6
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread 4-3... __________________ Just win.

09-28-2010, 05:48 PM	#9
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread What are the odds we hire a defensive consultant by mid season? I'm putting it at 50/50. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

09-28-2010, 08:24 PM	#13
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread Rak is rushing more often than not and has one year of LB experience under his belt. Its Carter who's really stinking it up. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

09-28-2010, 08:44 PM	#14
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread I never said he isnt, he is doing it standing up instead of a three point stance __________________ Just win.

09-29-2010, 06:29 AM	#15
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread London Fletcher actually said as much the other day. Basicaly stating that we are getting burnt in our subpackages, which is our nickel and coverage packages. These packages are not 3-4 base, but actually 4-3 based. I don't know if we can believe him, I watched the game. All the packages are getting torched! Here is the link. London Fletcher Says The 3-4 Is Not To Blame Chalk it up to players Speak. __________________ Just win.

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