The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread

mooby · 09-26-2010, 08:26 PM

Just getting a head start on it. No Haslett wasn't responsible for that McNabb pick, but we already knew the game was over. I know the offense has problems, but I've seen enough of the offense to know it's not anything that can't be corrected. The rushing game started to come around today before we abandoned it, and the passing game is good enough and will only get better if McNabb keeps gelling with his receivers.

The real issue at hand in this thread is our defense. I was willing to give a pass for getting gashed by the Texans offense, but letting a rookie quarterback missing a Pro Bowl running back in the backfield look like he did today is unacceptable. I don't believe the players are at fault as much as the scheme is, and the scheme sucks.

The players aren't made for it. The majority of the players on our defense were damn good at being in a 4-3, and while some players have emerged in this scheme, namely Orakpo and Landry, I just don't believe that Haslett's defense will be successful in this league. We're not even 4 games into the season and the secret is out, and everybody knows it. Our offense isn't to the point yet where we can get into shootouts and win, and the more I see of this defense the more I think our offense is going to have to keep putting up more and more points on the board if it expects to win games.

All we heard all offseason was about how the majority of our defensive players would have an easy transition to the 3-4. Well our defense has looked historically bad so far, and honestly I do believe next season we would be better off going back to a 4-3. I understand making the transition to a 3-4 from a 4-3 isn't easy, but we shouldn't be this bad this early in the season. Jim Haslett's defense is trash, and I just don't believe that if he can't make adjustments this early in the season then he won't ever be successful here in Washington. Instead of throwing away the majority of the players this offseason we should just go back to the defense they are comfortable with.

Btw congratulations St. Louis. We just gave you your first September win in 4 seasons, and your second overall win in your last 29 games.

Chico23231 · 09-26-2010, 08:32 PM

lololololololololololol...

diehard · 09-26-2010, 08:32 PM

The defense did lose this game. If Haslett couldn't run the 4-3 defense, he shouldn't have been hired. If Shanahan is stuck on coaching players of yester-years and not your Clinton Portis or Haynesworth, why was he hired?

SirClintonPortis · 09-26-2010, 08:34 PM

We need a real nose tackle. Are there any decent prospects next year?

Kemo sucks and Albert is on and off.

Longtimefan · 09-26-2010, 08:34 PM

Don't start. We just finished praising the hell out of this group a little while ago. Reserve the right to retract your statements.

Redskin Warrior · 09-26-2010, 08:37 PM

IMO I think the offense has to get the defense out the field too. I do agree the defense sucks bad right now. But to there defense the D was gassed we converted 2 3rd downs all game & 1 rushing yard in the 2nd half.

Ruhskins · 09-26-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Don't start. We just finished praising the hell out of this group a little while ago. Reserve the right to retract your statements.

Defense hasn't been playing well. We won a fluke in week one and the defense's issues caught up to us on week two. We just lost to a subpar team (apparently they are not) with a rookie QB that didn't play his senior year, basically no receivers, and their start RB (their main offensive weapon) out for half of the game.

mooby · 09-26-2010, 08:39 PM

The defense wasn't broke, it didn't need to be fixed. We should've just hired a 4-3 defensive coordinator instead of overhauling a top 5 defense and making it the worst in the league. I mean honestly unless Jim Haslett suddenly realizes his defense isn't working we're gonna look like this for the rest of the season.

Just to clarify I don't want Haslett to be fired, because that solves nothing. There's nobody on the sideline that will make our defense better once they get the chance to shine. We're stuck with this for the rest of the season and unless Haslett figures something out we're probably gonna look like this for the rest of the season too. Hopefully his ego isn't so big that he can't figure out a solution. If he lets offenses like the Rams (without their Pro Bowl running back) look like that, then we're in trouble for the rest of the season. We've already seen what a great offense can do to his defense. Long story short, he needs to figure this shit out because our defense is playing horrible, and he hasn't shown the ability to adjust once offenses figure it out.

Redskin Warrior · 09-26-2010, 08:43 PM

Carter struggles in coverage, we don't have a solid NT, secondary played a little better with Moore at safety, but our run D is horrendous.

redsk1 · 09-26-2010, 08:50 PM

We've been run on in all three games. Dallas just didn't stick w/ it. I agree it's going to take some time to convert to a 3 4 system and we may not have the personell for it. it's just obvious that we're not that good defensively. The line is avg at best and our corners are avg at best. Yes, D Hall is still avg. Has been avg and still is avg. No shocker there.

Don't fool yourselves guys, our team needs several good drafts to get some more talent. We'll be average til then.

diehard · 09-26-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

Carter struggles in coverage, we don't have a solid NT, secondary played a little better with Moore at safety, but our run D is horrendous.

Carter in coverage is the least of our liabilities. Did you watch the game?

wordsmithgk · 09-26-2010, 08:54 PM

the reason the defense is on the field so long is that they play bad defense

saden1 · 09-26-2010, 08:56 PM

Count me in for firing Jim Haslett. I want to cut him!

TheSmurfs22 · 09-26-2010, 08:57 PM

Too early to start demanding heads roll. Come on, let's be honest with ourselves we all knew going into this year we would maybe be an average team.

saden1 · 09-26-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

Too early to start demanding heads roll. Come on, let's be honest with ourselves we all knew going into this year we would maybe be an average team.

I wouldn't call for his head if I thought we can get better. I don't think we can in light of Haslett's questionable defensive play selection. I really believe Haslett is maxed out in terms of what he can offer our defense.

09-26-2010, 08:26 PM	#1
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread Just getting a head start on it. No Haslett wasn't responsible for that McNabb pick, but we already knew the game was over. I know the offense has problems, but I've seen enough of the offense to know it's not anything that can't be corrected. The rushing game started to come around today before we abandoned it, and the passing game is good enough and will only get better if McNabb keeps gelling with his receivers. The real issue at hand in this thread is our defense. I was willing to give a pass for getting gashed by the Texans offense, but letting a rookie quarterback missing a Pro Bowl running back in the backfield look like he did today is unacceptable. I don't believe the players are at fault as much as the scheme is, and the scheme sucks. The players aren't made for it. The majority of the players on our defense were damn good at being in a 4-3, and while some players have emerged in this scheme, namely Orakpo and Landry, I just don't believe that Haslett's defense will be successful in this league. We're not even 4 games into the season and the secret is out, and everybody knows it. Our offense isn't to the point yet where we can get into shootouts and win, and the more I see of this defense the more I think our offense is going to have to keep putting up more and more points on the board if it expects to win games. All we heard all offseason was about how the majority of our defensive players would have an easy transition to the 3-4. Well our defense has looked historically bad so far, and honestly I do believe next season we would be better off going back to a 4-3. I understand making the transition to a 3-4 from a 4-3 isn't easy, but we shouldn't be this bad this early in the season. Jim Haslett's defense is trash, and I just don't believe that if he can't make adjustments this early in the season then he won't ever be successful here in Washington. Instead of throwing away the majority of the players this offseason we should just go back to the defense they are comfortable with. Btw congratulations St. Louis. We just gave you your first September win in 4 seasons, and your second overall win in your last 29 games.

09-26-2010, 08:32 PM	#2
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,505	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread lololololololololololol... __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

09-26-2010, 08:32 PM	#3
diehard The Starter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Norfolk, Va (OV) Posts: 1,566	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread The defense did lose this game. If Haslett couldn't run the 4-3 defense, he shouldn't have been hired. If Shanahan is stuck on coaching players of yester-years and not your Clinton Portis or Haynesworth, why was he hired? __________________ *'Any NFL team will win with RG3. Imagine how exciting it will be watching him do it.'*

09-26-2010, 08:34 PM	#4
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread We need a real nose tackle. Are there any decent prospects next year? Kemo sucks and Albert is on and off. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

09-26-2010, 08:34 PM	#5
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread Don't start. We just finished praising the hell out of this group a little while ago. Reserve the right to retract your statements. __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

09-26-2010, 08:39 PM	#8
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread The defense wasn't broke, it didn't need to be fixed. We should've just hired a 4-3 defensive coordinator instead of overhauling a top 5 defense and making it the worst in the league. I mean honestly unless Jim Haslett suddenly realizes his defense isn't working we're gonna look like this for the rest of the season. Just to clarify I don't want Haslett to be fired, because that solves nothing. There's nobody on the sideline that will make our defense better once they get the chance to shine. We're stuck with this for the rest of the season and unless Haslett figures something out we're probably gonna look like this for the rest of the season too. Hopefully his ego isn't so big that he can't figure out a solution. If he lets offenses like the Rams (without their Pro Bowl running back) look like that, then we're in trouble for the rest of the season. We've already seen what a great offense can do to his defense. Long story short, he needs to figure this shit out because our defense is playing horrible, and he hasn't shown the ability to adjust once offenses figure it out.

09-26-2010, 08:50 PM	#10
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread We've been run on in all three games. Dallas just didn't stick w/ it. I agree it's going to take some time to convert to a 3 4 system and we may not have the personell for it. it's just obvious that we're not that good defensively. The line is avg at best and our corners are avg at best. Yes, D Hall is still avg. Has been avg and still is avg. No shocker there. Don't fool yourselves guys, our team needs several good drafts to get some more talent. We'll be average til then.

09-26-2010, 08:54 PM	#12
wordsmithgk Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Raleigh NC Age: 62 Posts: 159	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread the reason the defense is on the field so long is that they play bad defense

09-26-2010, 08:56 PM	#13
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread Count me in for firing Jim Haslett. I want to cut him! __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

09-26-2010, 08:57 PM	#14
TheSmurfs22 The Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Staunton, VA Posts: 1,261	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread Too early to start demanding heads roll. Come on, let's be honest with ourselves we all knew going into this year we would maybe be an average team. __________________ F#$% the Cowpukes!

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