Gardner and Brown

81forHOF · 03-23-2005, 05:23 PM

One of the only ways the redskins could screw up an otherwise good off-season is to sign a player like Brown. Every year we make a big free agency splash, and I admit it does keep the off-season interesting, and every year we still suck! What they have done is pushed themselves into a position to finally make good decisions by making so many bad ones in the past (talking about the cap situation). So far this year we have added a solid, versatile o-lineman, a playmaking wr who came from an organzation that knows how to win and a back-up safety with starting experience who also happens to be a special teams playmaker. All three are solid, blue collar type players who can contribute without also bringing a high price tag. This is exactly what it takes to win in this league (see Patriots). Courtney Brown has never done ANYTHING! Everyone is just getting excited about his name! Signing people for their name does not seem to work for us (see George, Sanders, Trotter, Brunell, etc... the list goes on and on!). So please don't give big money to any overrated free agents.

The other way the redskins can screw this year up is if the decide to trade their draftpicks away again like the morons have done the last couple of years!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-23-2005, 05:51 PM

I don't think the Brown signing would be so bad, provided the contract is centered around incentives (which WP has reported is the case). If he stinks, no skin off our backs. If he lights it up, he gets the money he wants.

Longtimefan · 03-23-2005, 07:34 PM

Brown will end up being Denver's new found version of Darrell Gardner. This guy is looking for a deal he's unlikely to get. I think with him it's all about money so maybe it's best he does go to Denver.

Champ made him do it!!!

diehardskin2982 · 03-24-2005, 01:12 AM

courtney has alot to prove, he was the 1st pick in his draft class and hasn't lived up to the hype or pay that comes with that.
With the Skins he will do that and more, I just hope he can realize that.

SKINSnCANES · 03-24-2005, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

courtney has alot to prove, he was the 1st pick in his draft class and hasn't lived up to the hype or pay that comes with that.
With the Skins he will do that and more, I just hope he can realize that.

Dan Wilkinson, KiJana Carter, Jeff George, and Bruce Smith all came to washington as former number overall picks...that didnt work out to well.

I do hope we get brown and that he turns his career around, mabye being in a rotation is what he needs.

That Guy · 03-24-2005, 02:36 AM

taylor jacobs was a 2nd rounder that was slated (by the skins scouts if no one elsse) as 1sst round talent.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-24-2005, 08:27 AM

The decision is being made today. I would be pissed I was Brown and the Broncos were like, "Yeah, he wants to come play here."

AndySkinUK · 03-24-2005, 09:42 AM

I hope he signs for Denver or Jacksonville.

I dont like the way he has been conducting this tour like he is the 2nd coming of Reggie White. He was good in college but has done nothing in the Pro's. Unless we sign him to a league minimum with incentives i don't want him.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 03-24-2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AndySkinUK

I hope he signs for Denver or Jacksonville.

I dont like the way he has been conducting this tour like he is the 2nd coming of Reggie White. He was good in college but has done nothing in the Pro's. Unless we sign him to a league minimum with incentives i don't want him.

....by taking a few weeks to consider his options before making a fairly significant, life-changing decision? Not sure I understand what you would have him do differently? Isn't it every free agent's right to test the market and find the best situation possible? If I'm a free agent and 4 interested teams call me and ask me to visit them, I'm at least going to hear them out and consider their offers.

AndySkinUK · 03-24-2005, 05:20 PM

That would be fair enough if he hadn't already said that he would be signing for either Denver or Washington and making a decision over the weekend.

Yet here we are 3 days later and still no decision, plus he has also visited to Jacksonville and Seattle.

He shouldn't have imposed a deadline if he wasn't going to stick to it.

wolfeskins · 03-24-2005, 05:35 PM

i wish brown would just go ahead and choose a team and the skins would hurry up and get rid of gardner. i'm sick of waiting.

Daseal · 03-24-2005, 09:44 AM

That Guy: Taylor Jacobs was a first round draft pick before the combine where he had the flu and put up a slow 40 time. He has great hands and speed. He's a good receiver, now I just hope he gets some playtime this year!

AndySkinUK · 03-24-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

That Guy: Taylor Jacobs was a first round draft pick before the combine where he had the flu and put up a slow 40 time. He has great hands and speed. He's a good receiver, now I just hope he gets some playtime this year!

Yeah i agree completely. With Moss, Patten, Jacobs, Thrash we would have a good 'group' of WRs and that wouldnt allow teams to concentrate just on one guy. Kind of like what the Pats have, and they've done ok over the last few years.

Throw in Cooley as well and improved line play with the return of Jansen and addition of Rabach so better protection for P-Ram and we should be set.

Daseal · 03-24-2005, 10:09 AM

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I dont like the way he has been conducting this tour like he is the 2nd coming of Reggie White.

Do you expect him to not look around to get the best possible deal for himself? He's trying to make money, if every player just said I want to play for the Redskins, pay me the minimum, it may be nice. That's not the case.

JoeRedskin · 03-24-2005, 12:16 PM

I just wish the guy would make up his mind so we could get on with our lives.

Oh wait... this IS our lives.

03-23-2005, 05:23 PM	#1
81forHOF Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mt Holly Springs, PA Age: 53 Posts: 579	Re: Gardner and Brown One of the only ways the redskins could screw up an otherwise good off-season is to sign a player like Brown. Every year we make a big free agency splash, and I admit it does keep the off-season interesting, and every year we still suck! What they have done is pushed themselves into a position to finally make good decisions by making so many bad ones in the past (talking about the cap situation). So far this year we have added a solid, versatile o-lineman, a playmaking wr who came from an organzation that knows how to win and a back-up safety with starting experience who also happens to be a special teams playmaker. All three are solid, blue collar type players who can contribute without also bringing a high price tag. This is exactly what it takes to win in this league (see Patriots). Courtney Brown has never done ANYTHING! Everyone is just getting excited about his name! Signing people for their name does not seem to work for us (see George, Sanders, Trotter, Brunell, etc... the list goes on and on!). So please don't give big money to any overrated free agents. The other way the redskins can screw this year up is if the decide to trade their draftpicks away again like the morons have done the last couple of years!

03-23-2005, 05:51 PM	#2
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Gardner and Brown I don't think the Brown signing would be so bad, provided the contract is centered around incentives (which WP has reported is the case). If he stinks, no skin off our backs. If he lights it up, he gets the money he wants.

03-23-2005, 07:34 PM	#3
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Gardner and Brown Brown will end up being Denver's new found version of Darrell Gardner. This guy is looking for a deal he's unlikely to get. I think with him it's all about money so maybe it's best he does go to Denver. Champ made him do it!!!

03-24-2005, 01:12 AM	#4
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Gardner and Brown courtney has alot to prove, he was the 1st pick in his draft class and hasn't lived up to the hype or pay that comes with that. With the Skins he will do that and more, I just hope he can realize that. __________________ That got ugly fast

03-24-2005, 02:36 AM	#6
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Gardner and Brown taylor jacobs was a 2nd rounder that was slated (by the skins scouts if no one elsse) as 1sst round talent.

03-24-2005, 08:27 AM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Gardner and Brown The decision is being made today. I would be pissed I was Brown and the Broncos were like, "Yeah, he wants to come play here." __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-24-2005, 09:42 AM	#8
AndySkinUK Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Age: 52 Posts: 44	Re: Gardner and Brown I hope he signs for Denver or Jacksonville. I dont like the way he has been conducting this tour like he is the 2nd coming of Reggie White. He was good in college but has done nothing in the Pro's. Unless we sign him to a league minimum with incentives i don't want him. __________________ Don't Panic

03-24-2005, 05:20 PM	#10
AndySkinUK Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Age: 52 Posts: 44	Re: Gardner and Brown That would be fair enough if he hadn't already said that he would be signing for either Denver or Washington and making a decision over the weekend. Yet here we are 3 days later and still no decision, plus he has also visited to Jacksonville and Seattle. He shouldn't have imposed a deadline if he wasn't going to stick to it. __________________ Don't Panic

03-24-2005, 05:35 PM	#11
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Gardner and Brown i wish brown would just go ahead and choose a team and the skins would hurry up and get rid of gardner. i'm sick of waiting.

03-24-2005, 09:44 AM	#12
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 8,341	Re: Gardner and Brown That Guy: Taylor Jacobs was a first round draft pick before the combine where he had the flu and put up a slow 40 time. He has great hands and speed. He's a good receiver, now I just hope he gets some playtime this year!

03-24-2005, 12:16 PM	#15
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 63 Posts: 10,401	Re: Gardner and Brown I just wish the guy would make up his mind so we could get on with our lives. Oh wait... this IS our lives.

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