2011 NFL Draft

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Smith has been flying up the boards lately, no surprise anyone who's watches MIZZ knows smith can play

Huge Mizzou fan. I had the chance to see Aldon a few times this year. One thing that is obvious with him is his natural speed. It's not that same kind of muscle explosiveness we see from Orakpo, but he's FAST. He'll almost certainly play 3-4 OLB in the NFL and the best comparison I could give would be Shaun Phillips. Similar build, but don't expect him to be THAT effective.

The truth is if you expect Aldon Smith to potentially be the best OLB in the draft, you'd be crazy. He's at best the 4th ranked OLB in my opinion.


Robert Quinn, Von Miller, and Ryan Kerrigan would all fit our style better.

[skinsfaninok]

Smith has a lot of potential but id rather have miller or Quinn. Ayers is a good option also

[musicmaster45]

Ok i don't see the greatness with quinn. And is he the one who missed a whole year with character issues?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

Ok i don't see the greatness with quinn. And is he the one who missed a whole year with character issues?

His ability to go through blockers and get into the backfield is top class.

His bull rush personally reminds me a lot of Orakpo. If he develops a counter move or two he'll be unstoppable.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

Ok i don't see the greatness with quinn. And is he the one who missed a whole year with character issues?

Not character issues. He and his family accepted money and gifts from an agent, and initially Quinn didn't admit to it. But then did and admitted he was just scared of the repercussion and trying to protect his family. He's a good kid, who's been through a lot.

His suspension reminds me in many ways of Jeremy Jarmon....what are the plans for him by the way

[skinsfaninok]

Quinn is a hybrid LB/DE similar to Orakpo, he is regarded as a top 3 Rusher

[musicmaster45]

But the character issues. I don't wanna deal with some guy who parties till 4 in the morning and gets into major trouble.

[vallin21]

Quinn IMO is not worth being selected #10. Not because of character but because he's too big 2 play Will or in a 3-4. He'll be a slightly above average DE in the NFL. Reminds me of a young Phillip Dainels.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by vallin21

Quinn IMO is not worth being selected #10. Not because of character but because he's too big 2 play Will or in a 3-4. He'll be a slightly above average DE in the NFL. Reminds me of a young Phillip Dainels.

To me Quinn is an Orakpo clone. If anything a guy that can move like him at his size and play the will is a huge luxury. From what I've seen he uses that same bull rush that frequently gets Orakpo held. In his last season he had 11 sacks along with 19 TFL (which is counted separately). That is not your traditional anchor left end/Daniels prototype.

Also his "character" issues are vastly overstated. It's sad that a guy like Cam Newton gets to play all season but someone like Quinn is suspended for the entire season.

Intangibles - 1 -Very humble about his abilities. Dedicated and passionate about the game. Recipient of ACC's Brian Piccolo Award in 2007 as league's most courageous player.

The real concerns about Quinn are as follows:
1. How is he in coverage?
2. How will he respond to a new level of competition after a year off at his previous level?
3. Is his Brain Tumor still benign?

His ability to rush the passer and make plays in the back field on the other hand should be unquestioned.

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

To me Quinn is an Orakpo clone. If anything a guy that can move like him at his size and play the will is a huge luxury. From what I've seen he uses that same bull rush that frequently gets Orakpo held. In his last season he had 11 sacks along with 19 TFL (which is counted separately). That is not your traditional anchor left end/Daniels prototype.

Also his "character" issues are vastly overstated. It's sad that a guy like Cam Newton gets to play all season but someone like Quinn is suspended for the entire season.



The real concerns about Quinn are as follows:
1. How is he in coverage?
2. How will he respond to a new level of competition after a year off at his previous level?
3. Is his Brain Tumor still benign?

His ability to rush the passer and make plays in the back field on the other hand should be unquestioned.

Ok, but it seems like he doesn't have the same explosive, acceleration that Rak has. I was going to ask can he cover? Depending on how well he does in that area will determine whether he is a DE or a hybrid. Didn't know about the brain Tumor, hopefully that's gone. And lastly character, which I don't put much into. If you can play football and help your team win that's all that matters. But he was taking jewlery? C'mon. I have to wonder what he'll do when he gets that first big check. I could be wrong, but as a former college player, taking jewery over a chance to play the game of football just isn't cool with me.

[Dantheskinsfan]

Originally Posted by vallin21

Ok, but it seems like he doesn't have the same explosive, acceleration that Rak has. I was going to ask can he cover? Depending on how well he does in that area will determine whether he is a DE or a hybrid. Didn't know about the brain Tumor, hopefully that's gone. And lastly character, which I don't put much into. If you can play football and help your team win that's all that matters. But he was taking jewlery? C'mon. I have to wonder what he'll do when he gets that first big check. I could be wrong, but as a former college player, taking jewery over a chance to play the game of football just isn't cool with me.

Maybe that's all that matters to YOU....

[Terpfan76]

I thought he took jewelry from a jewelry dealer not understanding that there is no distinction between taking gifts from a private citizen or an agent. From what I read, he was naive. This isn't a kid that's been participating in illegal activities at least from all reports I've seen, it's a case of a kid making a bad decision.
How many of us at that age made worse decisions than that? I work in a prison full of those kids.

[Terpfan76]

SportingNews.com - Pro Football War Room

Blitz/coverage: Is explosive off the ball and has an excellent closing burst to the quarterback. Dips shoulder and turns the corner well with offensive tackles leaning on him, but is not consistent as an edge rusher. Has a good spin move to beat tackles inside or outside. Tends to get up high when close to the quarterback, which leads to him running past and missing easy sacks. Grade: 8.5

[skinsfaninok]

Inside the Panthers: Rivera hitting road to see Newton

[Chico23231]

Best case scenario is trading back and picking up an additional second round pick and then with our 3 picks second and first round taking a combo of NT, QB, and DE/OLB.