To recline or not recline

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by saden1

Oh really? And what exactly are you going to do when my hands hold up your seat or I keep banging on your comfortably reclined seat with my knees? It's my fcking space and I'm going to do whatever it takes to keep it that way.

May the biggest dick wins and I'm always in it to win it.

What a winning personality you have.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by saden1

Oh really? And what exactly are you going to do when my hands hold up your seat or I keep banging on your comfortably reclined seat with my knees? It's my fcking space and I'm going to do whatever it takes to keep it that way.

May the biggest dick wins and I'm always in it to win it.

Actually if you think about how the seats are set up and how they function then you should realize that those few inches in front of your knees are not your space. They belong to the guy in front of you.
And if you were to act like like you advertise than security could be waiting for you at the gate like the hothead in the CNN article.

[724Skinsfan]

I don't recline (ever), but that's because I've always attributed reclining to laziness.

[hooskins]

@ CRedskins: I really don't agree with that. As FRPLG said, it's a part of the ticket you pay for. There are no rules which tell you not to recline. The button needs to be removed if something the airline feels like the passenger should not do. I don't know why I have to fork over extra money to do something each ticket allows you to do.

With all this being said, I don't recline if someone is large or looks uncomfortable. I travel 70% of the time for work, and I have never had anyone complain, grunt, etc. about reclining. If someone asked me to bring my seat back up, in a polite manner, I would do it. If they think the area in front of them is their God given right, and are a prick about it, I would not bring my seat upright.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by hooskins

@ CRedskins: I really don't agree with that. As FRPLG said, it's a part of the ticket you pay for. There are no rules which tell you not to recline. The button needs to be removed if something the airline feels like the passenger should not do. I don't know why I have to fork over extra money to do something each ticket allows you to do.

With all this being said, I don't recline if someone is large or looks uncomfortable. I travel 70% of the time for work, and I have never had anyone complain, grunt, etc. about reclining. If someone asked me to bring my seat back up, in a polite manner, I would do it. If they think the area in front of them is their God given right, and are a prick about it, I would not bring my seat upright.

Well I always just kinda dealt with it when the person in front did. I understand the point that it's a part of the seat, my only difference with your first statement was you said you paid for comfort, and I don't think anyone buying the economy tickets (myself included) is paying for comfort, instead we are paying for the transportation from point a to b. I agree that, since it's a part of the seat you have the "right", to me it's just not respectful, unless it's a little child or small woman behind you. That doesn't give the other person a right to be a prick about it either.

[hooskins]

CRedskin I understand what you are saying but to me, when I buy a ticket I am not only paying for simple transport. I am paying for my carry-on weight, my soda, my pretzels, etc. On airlines like Air Tran, with free XM radio, I factor that into the ticket too. So when I say I am paying for comfort, I am saying a portion of my ticket pays for the physical seat which gives me an option to recline, and increase my comfort level. Basically reclining, and therefore that comfort, is a part of the ticket. Perhaps not the main part, but a part nonetheless.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by hooskins

CRedskin I understand what you are saying but to me, when I buy a ticket I am not only paying for simple transport. I am paying for my carry-on weight, my soda, my pretzels, etc. On airlines like Air Tran, with free XM radio, I factor that into the ticket too. So when I say I am paying for comfort, I am saying a portion of my ticket pays for the physical seat which gives me an option to recline, and increase my comfort level. Basically reclining, and therefore that comfort, is a part of the ticket. Perhaps not the main part, but a part nonetheless.

I agree. I think the purchase of the seat and its practical functions trumps the purchase of a seat and the space around it.

[celts32]

Reclining seats are rude. They should not even be an option in planes. Some clown in front of me wants to sleep so i get his seat rammed in my face. Rediculous...

[hooskins]

Those who are pissed can buy seats behind exit rows. Exit row seats cannot recline, correct? Or is the seats in front of the exit rows cannot recline.

Either way, you can get tickets for seats that do not get obstructed.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Those who are pissed can buy seats behind exit rows. Exit row seats cannot recline, correct? Or is the seats in front of the exit rows cannot recline.

Either way, you can get tickets for seats that do not get obstructed.

The first exit row can not recline into the second exit row. And you can't always get those seats because they are limited and often times sold out. I suppose if you're tall you can travel by car, train, buy your ticket early, upgrade to better class, or be the dick behind the dick who won't allow the dick front of him recline his seat.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I typically turn around and say, "Hey, do you mind if I recline? Seriously, if you need the space I don't mind staying up."

Most of the time, I'm typically so sleepy I could sleep with someone stabbing me in the neck on an airplane, so I'm a back example.

[jamf]

It's about respect.
Out of respect I will cover my cough and *try* to hold in my gas.
I won't listed to 2 Live Crew or read playboy/penthouse on the plane.
I could, it's my right but I won't.

I don't like recliners but I try not to let is stress me out. The only time it's a problem is if it's a tall person and I have to look at their scalp. I've actually counted the freckles on a bald guys head...
on a flight from Chicago to San Diego, The guy two seats to my right started coughing continuously when the guy in front of him reclined. As soon as he put his seat up and moved, the coughing stopped. I might need to use that one day.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by jamf

It's about respect.
Out of respect I will cover my cough and *try* to hold in my gas.
I won't listed to 2 Live Crew or read playboy/penthouse on the plane.
I could, it's my right but I won't.

I don't like recliners but I try not to let is stress me out. The only time it's a problem is if it's a tall person and I have to look at their scalp. I've actually counted the freckles on a bald guys head...
on a flight from Chicago to San Diego, The guy two seats to my right started coughing continuously when the guy in front of him reclined. As soon as he put his seat up and moved, the coughing stopped. I might need to use that one day.

This.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by jamf

It's about respect.
Out of respect I will cover my cough and *try* to hold in my gas.
I won't listed to 2 Live Crew or read playboy/penthouse on the plane.
I could, it's my right but I won't.

I don't like recliners but I try not to let is stress me out. The only time it's a problem is if it's a tall person and I have to look at their scalp. I've actually counted the freckles on a bald guys head...
on a flight from Chicago to San Diego, The guy two seats to my right started coughing continuously when the guy in front of him reclined. As soon as he put his seat up and moved, the coughing stopped. I might need to use that one day.

Great points but the way I see it it's not a curtsy issue. I liken this situation to not flying your airplanes into United States airspace without permission. Just because you got an airplane that can fly anywhere doesn't mean you can take it anywhere. The space in front of my seat is my airspace and you can't fly your seat through it. Very simple.

[firstdown]

These post are the reasons the few times I fly I go first class.