Trading up to #2

ST21 · 04-05-2005, 04:35 PM

Since we all want an impact player in the draft, why not trade...Garner, #9 and Betts, to Miami for there #2 and take Braylon Edwards....then we can compete with the Eagles in the Division for the Title...... or if we could Trade to get the #2 who would you take?

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-05-2005, 04:37 PM

I'm not really sold on Edwards. As anyone knows, I'm one of the bigger Williams supporters. I definitely would not want to lose our depth at RB. If SOMEHOW we could get the #2 (which I don't think could happen in any situation), of course I'd take Williams. If all the players I listed in MY preferred draftees list are gone, I'd say trade down for more picks.

Red Robert · 04-05-2005, 05:16 PM

Malcolm once again I agree with you on most of your comments. I however feel we should pass on Williams and get the best corner available in the draft. I think "pac-man" Jones would do more for us. The replacement of Smoot is obvious but Jones is also an explosive return man. Morton has not really done much for us an I suspect he will be cut in June. IF NOT that I think like you that trading down for more picks is a better option.

offiss · 04-05-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Robert

Malcolm once again I agree with you on most of your comments. I however feel we should pass on Williams and get the best corner available in the draft. I think "pac-man" Jones would do more for us. The replacement of Smoot is obvious but Jones is also an explosive return man. Morton has not really done much for us an I suspect he will be cut in June. IF NOT that I think like you that trading down for more picks is a better option.

We already have 2 explosive return men in Moss and Brown, as well Gibbs does not like to use a star player on returns for fear of injury [ala D.Green] I am for taking a CB but I want to deal down and pick up a 2nd rounder as well and look for a WR with that pick, no way we deal up for anyone.

cpayne5 · 04-05-2005, 05:55 PM

I say trade down, collect picks, and make good, solid 'for the long term' selections.

Redskins_P · 04-05-2005, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cpayne5

I say trade down, collect picks, and make good, solid 'for the long term' selections.

Agreed, if we can't get Williams then trade down.

PSUskinsfan11 · 04-05-2005, 06:18 PM

I would love to have williams but I say CB is more important right now. I say Rolle at 9 and if he is gone trade down and get Rogers or Miller in the mid 1st

MTK · 04-05-2005, 06:57 PM

You never know, but, Vinny C. said on the extremeskins chat that the Skins aren't interested in trading up mainly because of the cap concerns that goes along with a top 5 pick.

sportscurmudgeon · 04-05-2005, 08:14 PM

Both the Niners (at #1 overall) and the Dolphins (at #2 overall) are ACTIVELY looking to trade down. The reason is that the consensus this year is that the draft is one of the worst ones in memory in terms of "star players" and "impact players".

Everyone will be looking to try to get more picks in lower spots (smaller cap hits) and so that market may be difficult to navigate. Now if a team really wants to move up and thinks it has some kind of scouting edge, they COULD grab the #1 and #2 picks this year. If a team does that, their scouts better be right because those contracts will become painful in about 3 years...

MTK · 04-05-2005, 08:46 PM

Yeah there really is no clear cut #1 pick, not a good year to be a bad team!

Monksdown · 04-05-2005, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You never know, but, Vinny C. said on the extremeskins chat that the Skins aren't interested in trading up mainly because of the cap concerns that goes along with a top 5 pick.

He was very adamant about it too Matty. Moving up in this draft has been addressed. And we are not doing it.

offiss · 04-05-2005, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You never know, but, Vinny C. said on the extremeskins chat that the Skins aren't interested in trading up mainly because of the cap concerns that goes along with a top 5 pick.

Thank You!

SKINSnCANES · 04-05-2005, 10:17 PM

If we move up in the draft it will be on draft day, and not more than a few slots. IF,and this is a big if, IF they are really sold on a guy and really want him they might make one of thoes moves where you go up a pick or two just to make sure you get him. Assuming you think someone else wants the same guy. I do see this happening a lot in this years draft, probably not with us though.

KLHJ2 · 04-05-2005, 10:30 PM

I do not see us moving anywhere at all. I believe that we have a good position in the draft minus a second round pick. Low enough to get an impact player, and high enough to not have to pony up the dough for him. However, I am no pshycic. The draft will prove to be interesting.

wolfeskins · 04-06-2005, 12:28 AM

i agree with you angryssg. i think the 9 spot is a good place to be. i'm torn between the skins picking a cb or a wr.

04-05-2005, 05:16 PM	#3
Red Robert Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 54 Posts: 306	Re: Trading up to #2 Malcolm once again I agree with you on most of your comments. I however feel we should pass on Williams and get the best corner available in the draft. I think "pac-man" Jones would do more for us. The replacement of Smoot is obvious but Jones is also an explosive return man. Morton has not really done much for us an I suspect he will be cut in June. IF NOT that I think like you that trading down for more picks is a better option.

04-05-2005, 05:55 PM	#5
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	Re: Trading up to #2 I say trade down, collect picks, and make good, solid 'for the long term' selections. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

04-05-2005, 06:18 PM	#7
PSUskinsfan11 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the port, PA Age: 40 Posts: 692	Re: Trading up to #2 I would love to have williams but I say CB is more important right now. I say Rolle at 9 and if he is gone trade down and get Rogers or Miller in the mid 1st

04-05-2005, 06:57 PM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,581	Re: Trading up to #2 You never know, but, Vinny C. said on the extremeskins chat that the Skins aren't interested in trading up mainly because of the cap concerns that goes along with a top 5 pick. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-05-2005, 08:46 PM	#10
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,581	Re: Trading up to #2 Yeah there really is no clear cut #1 pick, not a good year to be a bad team! __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-05-2005, 04:35 PM	#1
ST21 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 519	Trading up to #2 Since we all want an impact player in the draft, why not trade...Garner, #9 and Betts, to Miami for there #2 and take Braylon Edwards....then we can compete with the Eagles in the Division for the Title...... or if we could Trade to get the #2 who would you take?

04-05-2005, 04:37 PM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Trading up to #2 I'm not really sold on Edwards. As anyone knows, I'm one of the bigger Williams supporters. I definitely would not want to lose our depth at RB. If SOMEHOW we could get the #2 (which I don't think could happen in any situation), of course I'd take Williams. If all the players I listed in MY preferred draftees list are gone, I'd say trade down for more picks. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-05-2005, 08:14 PM	#9
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Trading up to #2 Both the Niners (at #1 overall) and the Dolphins (at #2 overall) are ACTIVELY looking to trade down. The reason is that the consensus this year is that the draft is one of the worst ones in memory in terms of "star players" and "impact players". Everyone will be looking to try to get more picks in lower spots (smaller cap hits) and so that market may be difficult to navigate. Now if a team really wants to move up and thinks it has some kind of scouting edge, they COULD grab the #1 and #2 picks this year. If a team does that, their scouts better be right because those contracts will become painful in about 3 years... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

04-05-2005, 10:17 PM	#13
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	Re: Trading up to #2 If we move up in the draft it will be on draft day, and not more than a few slots. IF,and this is a big if, IF they are really sold on a guy and really want him they might make one of thoes moves where you go up a pick or two just to make sure you get him. Assuming you think someone else wants the same guy. I do see this happening a lot in this years draft, probably not with us though. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-05-2005, 10:30 PM	#14
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 46 Posts: 5,829	Re: Trading up to #2 I do not see us moving anywhere at all. I believe that we have a good position in the draft minus a second round pick. Low enough to get an impact player, and high enough to not have to pony up the dough for him. However, I am no pshycic. The draft will prove to be interesting.

04-06-2005, 12:28 AM	#15
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Trading up to #2 i agree with you angryssg. i think the 9 spot is a good place to be. i'm torn between the skins picking a cb or a wr.

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