Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He had to have meant trade for NE late round pick in the 1st. Or their 17th pick from Oak

I meant what I said. if we can get two more picks for our first round in early rounds to add depth to our team, then why not?

I would rather get more picks and more players with talent. We don't have any picks after the 2nd till the late rounds. Why not try to beef up our middle rounds for more qaulity picks?

We are in a rebuilding phase. If we were 10-6 last year I would say go for the 10th overall pick and see what we can get. Although, we have a old dieng roster that needs to be rebuilt. Including the the middle of our Oline, and Dline.

You can't win football games if you cannot control the line of scrimmage. We failed to do that in ALOT of games this year.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by Bucket

I meant what I said. if we can get two more picks for our first round in early rounds to add depth to our team, then why not?.

Hey genius. Look up the word VALUE in the dictionary.

Suggesting that we trade the number 10 pick in the draft for a second and third round pick is a clown shoes idea.

It's hardly even worth responding to because it is such an absurd comment.

[skinsfaninok]

I just have a feeling we will draft Locker, I dont think at 10 but I do see us trading down in the 1st to draft him.

[cdskins26]

At this point im totally okay with Locker becoming a Redskin. My theory is that a quarterbacks career is almost 50% how he is coached. We ruined Jason Campbell, who may have had more success in a system where the front office groomed him (like we did), was patient, and allowed him to learn the system. Who knows if aaron rodgers would have done any better here. As long as we are patient and give him the right coaching i see him as a potential 15 year starter.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by cdskins26

At this point im totally okay with Locker becoming a Redskin. My theory is that a quarterbacks career is almost 50% how he is coached. We ruined Jason Campbell, who may have had more success in a system where the front office groomed him (like we did), was patient, and allowed him to learn the system. Who knows if aaron rodgers would have done any better here. As long as we are patient and give him the right coaching i see him as a potential 15 year starter.

Interesting theory, would that apply to Heath Shuler? I always wondered how he would've done had norv started him instead of Frerotte. Once he was benched he lost all moxy.

I would add that w/any player, but QB especially, success comes down to personality, drive, etc. As someone posted earlier, we haven't had the "it" factor in a qb in a long time w/the painful exception of McNabb. This team needs a young leader on Offense, someone with a strong drive to succeed & the charisma & leadership to demand it of others. I would rather have a guy has those characteristics than a guy w/a rocket arm & athleticism. I think Locker seems like he could be that type of leader.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by cdskins26

At this point im totally okay with Locker becoming a Redskin. My theory is that a quarterbacks career is almost 50% how he is coached. We ruined Jason Campbell, who may have had more success in a system where the front office groomed him (like we did), was patient, and allowed him to learn the system. Who knows if aaron rodgers would have done any better here. As long as we are patient and give him the right coaching i see him as a potential 15 year starter.

I think you might be overrating coaching just a bit. I might put it more like 25%. Some guys just aren't going to make it at this level no matter what.

There are rarely ideal situations for players. Coaches and systems come and go, having a guy like Peyton Manning play in one offense his entire career is not the norm. And with a guy like PM, he probably would have still thrived if he had played in a few different systems.

Talent and the drive to succeed trump coaching in my opinion.

[cdskins26]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think you might be overrating coaching just a bit. I might put it more like 25%. Some guys just aren't going to make it at this level no matter what.

There are rarely ideal situations for players. Coaches and systems come and go, having a guy like Peyton Manning play in one offense his entire career is not the norm. And with a guy like PM, he probably would have still thrived if he had played in a few different systems.

Talent and the drive to succeed trump coaching in my opinion.

Youre probably right, but 25% is still a huge number. To adequately get adjusted, i think we give locker time. I think Mallett would be okay to start from the get-go but i dont know if he will ultimately end up better.

[SmootSmack]

sidenote: Today is the 5th anniversary of our last playoff win...um, happy anniversary?

[GTripp0012]

I am not liking the quarterbacks who will be available at no. 10. If Blaine Gabbert is there (and AJ Green is not), I think we need to take him.

If there's no immediate help for the passing game at pick no. 10, we may have to go to the defensive side of the ball.

Jake Locker will probably be around in the second round if we want to take him then, but he'll be just one of many mediocre quarterback prospects who fit our system to be available then. With the depth of the senior QB class, I'm not sure what a guy like Jake Locker really gives you, outside of a longshot at solving your QB issue.

[SBXVII]

^ and before I get blasted....

I know Luck did come out after the half and threw several TD's and won the game. That does show he is capable of making adjustments and over coming diversity. I'm just saying Dalton showed 4 quarters of poise. Am I biased towards Dalton maybe. I was simply trying to see what college games was on flipping channels and watched the game. I came away impressed with him. I hadn't even heard of him until I watched the game and when I decided to talk about him on the message boards I found several message boards already had threads about him.

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

^ and before I get blasted....

I know Luck did come out after the half and threw several TD's and won the game. That does show he is capable of making adjustments and over coming diversity. I'm just saying Dalton showed 4 quarters of poise. Am I biased towards Dalton maybe. I was simply trying to see what college games was on flipping channels and watched the game. I came away impressed with him. I hadn't even heard of him until I watched the game and when I decided to talk about him on the message boards I found several message boards already had threads about him.

Hmm, I don't remember an all white team taking the field the second half..

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

Hmm, I don't remember an all white team taking the field the second half..

LOL, sorry I meant to say ... over came difficulties he might have been having during that game. or whatever. lol. Sorry.

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

LOL, sorry I meant to say ... over came difficulties he might have been having during that game. or whatever. lol. Sorry.

Haha, just pulling your leg man. Adversity ; )

[Dirtbag59]

Keep in mind this draft is generally weaker then last years class due to the fact that more players came out early in hopes of avoiding the rookie salary cap as well as getting a year in before the Lockout. This year free agency is where teams will find the most talent.

[SBXVII]

Unfortunatly you have to have a willing partner who wants to trade with you. So the next question is what do you see as a major need for NE and will there be a player at #10 that they just have to have or he goes to another team or rival?

The problem is I just don't think NE has ever been panick stricken enough to want to throw away draft picks like that. Usually they are the ones trading away 1 pick for a ton. So although I like the theory a heck of a lot I just don't see NE doing something like that unless they are extremely hard pressed, which is why I'm asking what position they have a drastic needed player for?