Updated Title: World Revolution 2011

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Lets just hope these changes are for the good and don't turn out like Iran did back in the 80's (I think it was the 80s).

Good point. It is a bit of a concern in places like Yemen, where Al Qaeda has a presence there and could take advantage of the instability to take over. Although, I feel that the rhetoric behind these protests are not in line with Islamic fundamentalism.

[saden1]

Does anyone else find it amusing that Iraqis are protesting for change/freedom now given that we brought them change/freedom back in 2003?

[firstdown]

From your link

The deferred salary is based on a 1998 agreement in which Cheney elected to defer compensation earned in 1999 for his employment as CEO of Halliburton. This deferred salary is paid in annual installments, with interest, over the five years after Cheney's retirement from Halliburton.

That agreement is in writing and was done before DC was even in office or even running as VP. Trying to make something from nothing.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by firstdown

From your link

The deferred salary is based on a 1998 agreement in which Cheney elected to defer compensation earned in 1999 for his employment as CEO of Halliburton. This deferred salary is paid in annual installments, with interest, over the five years after Cheney's retirement from Halliburton.

That agreement is in writing and was done before DC was even in office or even running as VP. Trying to make something from nothing.

It does not matter for this issue when the deferments started. The fact is that while in office Cheney had a stake in Halliburton's profitablity (without that profitability he could not have been paid his deferments).

So, by your own argument, Cheney had a stake in Halliburton's financial success in Iraq during the war.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Lotus

It does not matter for this issue when the deferments started. The fact is that while in office Cheney had a stake in Halliburton's profitablity (without that profitability he could not have been paid his deferments).

So, by your own argument, Cheney had a stake in Halliburton's financial success in Iraq during the war.

You ned to read a little better.

From The Link:

On the other hand, there is a possibility that if the company went bankrupt it would be unable to pay. That raises the theoretical possibility of a conflict of interest -- if the public interest somehow demanded that Cheney take action that would hurt Halliburton it could conceivably end up costing him money personally. So to insulate himself from that possible conflict, Cheney purchased an insurance policy (which cost him $14,903) that promises to pay him all the deferred compensation that Halliburton owes him even if the company goes bust and refuses to pay.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You ned to read a little better.

From The Link:

On the other hand, there is a possibility that if the company went bankrupt it would be unable to pay. That raises the theoretical possibility of a conflict of interest -- if the public interest somehow demanded that Cheney take action that would hurt Halliburton it could conceivably end up costing him money personally. So to insulate himself from that possible conflict, Cheney purchased an insurance policy (which cost him $14,903) that promises to pay him all the deferred compensation that Halliburton owes him even if the company goes bust and refuses to pay.

He's a real piece of work...Evil genius!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

He's a real piece of work...Evil genius!

Its done more often then you would think because people who run for office have interest in busnesses which can be a conflict no matter how big or small they may be.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You ned to read a little better.

From The Link:

On the other hand, there is a possibility that if the company went bankrupt it would be unable to pay. That raises the theoretical possibility of a conflict of interest -- if the public interest somehow demanded that Cheney take action that would hurt Halliburton it could conceivably end up costing him money personally. So to insulate himself from that possible conflict, Cheney purchased an insurance policy (which cost him $14,903) that promises to pay him all the deferred compensation that Halliburton owes him even if the company goes bust and refuses to pay.

But as an unpaid consultant during his time in office, he'd still rather get the money from Halliburton rather than an insurance policy, right? And he wanted to return to financial involvement with Halliburton after he was in office, right?

Please stop defending the indefensible. Between Halliburton, the Carlyle Group, and Bechtel, Cheney had a strong financial stake in the Iraq war. It is just that simple.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Lotus

But as an unpaid consultant during his time in office, he'd still rather get the money from Halliburton rather than an insurance policy, right? And he wanted to return to financial involvement with Halliburton after he was in office, right?

Please stop defending the indefensible. Between Halliburton, the Carlyle Group, and Bechtel, Cheney had a strong financial stake in the Iraq war. It is just that simple.

I don't even give a rats ass I'm just pointing out what you seem to keep reading over. Why would DC even care who gives him the money? You keep saying he had this financial stake in the war but you have no evidence even when the evidence say he did not.

[12thMan]

Why do we say, rat's ass?

Where did that come from, First?

How come it's not a roach's ass...or an elephant's ass. Or a monkey's nose? I don't appreciate the way we disparage rats around here.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Why do we say, rat's ass?

Where did that come from, First?

How come it's not a roach's ass...or an elephant's ass. Or a monkey's nose? I don't appreciate the way we disparage rats around here.

Let me google that for you

[Ruhskins]

So, back to the Middle East, anything new going on?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So, back to the Middle East, anything new going on?

The Mubaraks waited too long to get money out of the bank and flee.
Egypt seizes Mubarak family funds - Yahoo! News

[12thMan]

We just froze $30 Billion in Libyan assets. I think we're sending a couple of ships over there as we speak, which means we might try to impose a no fly zone.

Other than that, Gaddafi is insane and will hopefully be gone very, very soon.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

We just froze $30 Billion in Libyan assets. I think we're sending a couple of ships over there as we speak, which means we might try to impose a no fly zone.

Other than that, Gaddafi is insane and will hopefully be gone very, very soon.

Wouldn't that be considered nation building?