Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread

12thMan · 12-21-2011, 09:38 AM

@Dirtbag59: I tend to stay away from comparing one presidency to another. My only exception would George W. Bush's time in office. But each presidency should be judged and compared through the lens of history. Every president inherits a different world than his predecessor and we can always think of areas for improvement regarding policy. I think it's really difficult to argue that Bill Clinton would have handled the Libyan crisis and Egypt any better or differently, for that matter, than President Obama. One of Clinton's biggest regrets until this day is not intervening in the Rwandan genocide and most foreign policy experts believe his response to the Balkins was a bit tardy. On the other hand, no matter how the economy turns out Obama will be known for ordering the killing of Bin Laden.

That being said and bias removed, I think history will look favorably on President Obama's eight years in office. Bill Clinton was the right guy for that time, but he didn't inherit two and oversee two theaters of war, a global financial crises, an auto industry on the brink of bankruptcy, and a country literally spiraling into depression. In some ways we really are comparing apples and pears.

NC_Skins · 12-21-2011, 12:13 PM

724Skinsfan · 12-22-2011, 09:19 AM

Only Congress has the power to declare war on Christmas. It's in The US Constitution.

Chico23231 · 12-22-2011, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Only Congress has the power to declare war on Christmas. It's in The US Constitution.

lol nice

Christmas is all about money now period. Its about making bottomlines. Same people that bitch about a culture war on christmas rather sit in lines to get $500 tv than show up for church or mass on christmas day. Hypocricy is seriously our country's most entertaining value.

firstdown · 12-22-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

lol nice

Christmas is all about money now period. Its about making bottomlines. Same people that bitch about a culture war on christmas rather sit in lines to get $500 tv than show up for church or mass on christmas day. Hypocricy is seriously our country's most entertaining value.

Speak for yourself. Me and several others have worked all week to get food, gifts, paid a families rent, etc.. to help them through christmas. While doing this I have found a whole network of people trying to help people and it has made Christmas that much more special this year.

Chico23231 · 12-22-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Speak for yourself. Me and several others have worked all week to get food, gifts, paid a families rent, etc.. to help them through christmas. While doing this I have found a whole network of people trying to help people and it has made Christmas that much more special this year.

That is really great FD and it brings the true meaning to the holiday.

Charity and giving is awesome, i guess when people call it other things it invokes different reactions. But come'on Money, materialism > sweet baby jesus in this country all day long

firstdown · 12-22-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

That is really great FD and it brings the true meaning to the holiday.

Charity and giving is awesome, i guess when people call it other things it invokes different reactions. But come'on Money, materialism > sweet baby jesus in this country all day long

Actually I did not mean for that post to sound like the "me" post as it did. Our Club decided to give $ to needy families in our area. What I was trying to point out was how many people where actually networking to help families in our area. We see the people out shopping around but what's not seen are all the people helping others in tough times.

saden1 · 12-22-2011, 10:40 AM

No need to wage war on xmass...let the christians celebrate thier pagan festival. Also, I can understand kids getting gifts but adults exchanging gift of similar value? Seems stupid.

Remember, cash is king... give a gift card.

NC_Skins · 12-22-2011, 03:32 PM

Boehner’s office cuts off C-SPAN cameras as GOP takes verbal beating | The Raw Story

Why do people still support these clowns? I find it hilarious we talk shit about North Koreans being brain washed, yet follow idiots like this in our government.

Chico23231 · 12-23-2011, 10:38 AM

George H.W. Bush calls Mitt Romney ‘the best choice’ in 2012 campaign | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

gotta say im surprised and this is a semi-large endorsement.

Dirtbag59 · 12-23-2011, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

George H.W. Bush calls Mitt Romney ‘the best choice’ in 2012 campaign | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

gotta say im surprised and this is a semi-large endorsement.

Not a good one though.

SmootSmack · 12-24-2011, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Not a good one though.

Why not?

Dirtbag59 · 12-27-2011, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Why not?

A lot of independents I know aren't very fond of presidents named Bush. It's kind of like being a hedge fund manager and getting a vote of confidence from Bernie Madoff.

Chico23231 · 12-24-2011, 09:25 AM

Trump breaks with GOP, eyes independent bid - politics - Decision 2012 - msnbc.com

Trump just refuses to go away

Chico23231 · 12-27-2011, 07:44 PM

Perry challenges Virginia ballot rules – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Well FD, your dream of voting for Mitt Romney in the VA primary is looks like a done deal. Poor Newt Dogg and the village idiot Perry

12-21-2011, 09:38 AM	#1
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread @Dirtbag59: I tend to stay away from comparing one presidency to another. My *only* exception would George W. Bush's time in office. But each presidency should be judged and compared through the lens of history. Every president inherits a different world than his predecessor and we can always think of areas for improvement regarding policy. I think it's really difficult to argue that Bill Clinton would have handled the Libyan crisis and Egypt any better or differently, for that matter, than President Obama. One of Clinton's biggest regrets until this day is not intervening in the Rwandan genocide and most foreign policy experts believe his response to the Balkins was a bit tardy. On the other hand, no matter how the economy turns out Obama will be known for ordering the killing of Bin Laden. That being said and bias removed, I think history will look favorably on President Obama's eight years in office. Bill Clinton was the right guy for that time, but he didn't inherit two and oversee two theaters of war, a global financial crises, an auto industry on the brink of bankruptcy, and a country literally spiraling into depression. In some ways we really are comparing apples and pears.

12-21-2011, 12:13 PM	#2
NC_Skins Gamebreaker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 14,737	Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

12-22-2011, 09:19 AM	#3
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread Only Congress has the power to declare war on Christmas. It's in The US Constitution. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

12-22-2011, 10:40 AM	#8
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread No need to wage war on xmass...let the christians celebrate thier pagan festival. Also, I can understand kids getting gifts but adults exchanging gift of similar value? Seems stupid. Remember, cash is king... give a gift card. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins Last edited by saden1; 12-22-2011 at 10:42 AM.

12-22-2011, 03:32 PM	#9
NC_Skins Gamebreaker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 14,737	Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread Boehner’s office cuts off C-SPAN cameras as GOP takes verbal beating \| The Raw Story Why do people still support these clowns? I find it hilarious we talk shit about North Koreans being brain washed, yet follow idiots like this in our government. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

12-23-2011, 10:38 AM	#10
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,307	Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread George H.W. Bush calls Mitt Romney ‘the best choice’ in 2012 campaign \| The Ticket - Yahoo! News gotta say im surprised and this is a semi-large endorsement. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

12-24-2011, 09:25 AM	#14
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,307	Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread Trump breaks with GOP, eyes independent bid - politics - Decision 2012 - msnbc.com Trump just refuses to go away __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

12-27-2011, 07:44 PM	#15
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,307	Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread Perry challenges Virginia ballot rules – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs Well FD, your dream of voting for Mitt Romney in the VA primary is looks like a done deal. Poor Newt Dogg and the village idiot Perry __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread

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