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Old 08-01-2011, 02:53 PM   #1
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A team that was known for giving away draft picks clearly was never in build for the long haul mode.
I was being sarcastic but that doesnt translate well to written posts. I agree 100% with you but that's not how it was portrayed to or looked at by the fans (especially when Gibbs was brought back).
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Old 08-01-2011, 04:28 PM   #2
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Win now? This team?

Seems like they're trying to build for the long haul if you ask me. Sure they're bringing in free agents, but they're all in the 25-28 range and ready for their prime years.

The Eagles are in win now mode.
AND...........it seems rather obvious to me.........
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:05 PM   #3
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Re: How far can Beck take us?

It does appear like we're entering the building stage, I only hope that we get 5 years to do it and the rug doesn't get pulled out from under Shanny too soon.
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:08 PM   #4
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I think this year with so many new pieces in place, we might see them struggle early on. Could be one of those years where the record isn't a good indicator of how good the team really is. 7-9 maybe?
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:12 PM   #5
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I think this year with so many new pieces in place, we might see them struggle early on. Could be one of those years where the record isn't a good indicator of how good the team really is. 7-9 maybe?

I think we will struggle due to the schedule, not the new players. :P It's brutal.
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:28 PM   #6
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I think we will struggle due to the schedule, not the new players. :P It's brutal.
Are we looking at the same schedule?

2011 Strength of Schedule - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:38 PM   #7
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Are we looking at the same schedule?

2011 Strength of Schedule - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN
We play the Giants(2), Iggles(2), Boys(2), Cards, Rams, Panthers, Bills, 49ers, Dolphins, Seahawks, Jets, Patriots, and Vikings

strength of schedule aside, that's not an easy schedule by any definition, especially for a team that finished 6-10.
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Old 08-01-2011, 04:32 PM   #8
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I think we will struggle due to the schedule, not the new players. :P It's brutal.
What schedule are you reading?

If you rank the teams' schedules based on the win/loss record from last year, the Redskins schedule is a piece of cake. I believe it is the 29th most difficult one based on that metric. The Skins' 2011 opponents went a combined 121-135 in 2010. (Check for yourself to see if I made a math error here.)

The Redskins get to play the Panthers as one out of division team and the Vikings as the other. Based on comments here, the Vikes should be an easy game because they have such a worthless QB and the Panthers were abjectly miserable last season.

After they play the Panthers and Bills on two consecutive weekends, they then have to contend with the 49ers - - another Super Bowl contender. :yeahright

The Redskins - - and the rest of the NFC East - - get to play the NFC West this year as part of the in-conference rotation. Remember, that is the division that had no teams with winning records last year.

What you ought to fear the most is that the Redskins EASY schedule will make the team appear to be "one player away from greatness" in 2012 and tempt the powers that be into abandoning the "build from within strategy"...
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:14 PM   #9
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I think this year with so many new pieces in place, we might see them struggle early on. Could be one of those years where the record isn't a good indicator of how good the team really is. 7-9 maybe?
I actually wish the Redskins would have done last offseason, what they are doing this offseason. But yeah, I think we are building for the future. None of the signings we've had could be interpreted as "win-now".
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:27 PM   #10
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I actually wish the Redskins would have done last offseason, what they are doing this offseason. But yeah, I think we are building for the future. None of the signings we've had could be interpreted as "win-now".
Yeah, but last year they didn't have the cap room they do now, and free agency was pretty limited. And obviously circumstances changed when DM didn't work out. They did do a good job at cleaning things up cap wise for this year knowing they could really make a splash at building a young core for the future.
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I actually wish the Redskins would have done last offseason, what they are doing this offseason. But yeah, I think we are building for the future. None of the signings we've had could be interpreted as "win-now".
If they were TRULY building for the future then they would not have signed all these guys. They would've drafted a bunch of guys, which they did, and then let them play, like Tampa Bay did last year. They started two rookies at wr and found a stud RB off the waiver wire. Now those guys have game experience. Armstrong gets game experience and then has to fight for a job cause Shanahan likes a career journeymen Jabar Gaffney. It's like we always try and get other peoples players right when they're entering their prime, or past their prime instead of drafting our own guys, letting them play together and let them enter their primes together. I'll say it again, bringing in a lot of other teams players doesn't work. The good teams get free agents here and there to mix in with establised core players.

I like some of the guys they signed, but I question whether a guy like Cofield will fit in here. Hopefully he will.
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:39 PM   #12
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If they were TRULY building for the future then they would not have signed all these guys. They would've drafted a bunch of guys, which they did, and then let them play, like Tampa Bay did last year. They started two rookies at wr and found a stud RB off the waiver wire. Now those guys have game experience. Armstrong gets game experience and then has to fight for a job cause Shanahan likes a career journeymen Jabar Gaffney. It's like we always try and get other peoples players right when they're entering their prime, or past their prime instead of drafting our own guys, letting them play together and let them enter their primes together. I'll say it again, bringing in a lot of other teams players doesn't work. The good teams get free agents here and there to mix in with establised core players.

I like some of the guys they signed, but I question whether a guy like Cofield will fit in here. Hopefully he will.
So I'll ask again. How do you plan on filling the roster?
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:42 PM   #13
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So I'll ask again. How do you plan on filling the roster?
Get a whole bunch of 18 year old off the street. LOL.
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:56 PM   #14
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If they were TRULY building for the future then they would not have signed all these guys. They would've drafted a bunch of guys, which they did, and then let them play, like Tampa Bay did last year. They started two rookies at wr and found a stud RB off the waiver wire. Now those guys have game experience. Armstrong gets game experience and then has to fight for a job cause Shanahan likes a career journeymen Jabar Gaffney. It's like we always try and get other peoples players right when they're entering their prime, or past their prime instead of drafting our own guys, letting them play together and let them enter their primes together. I'll say it again, bringing in a lot of other teams players doesn't work. The good teams get free agents here and there to mix in with establised core players.

I like some of the guys they signed, but I question whether a guy like Cofield will fit in here. Hopefully he will.
How can they draft a bunch of guys when they dont have any draft picks or much talent to trade for picks?
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How can they draft a bunch of guys when they dont have any draft picks or much talent to trade for picks?
??? We have 12 drafted rookies in camp right now...
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