Who do you want to start at QB?

Swarley · 09-01-2011, 11:47 PM

For what it's worth Beck said that the reason he played today is cause the coaches wanted to give him a few more snaps since he missed the first game.

GusFrerotte · 09-02-2011, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GreekSkin

For what it's worth Beck said that the reason he played today is cause the coaches wanted to give him a few more snaps since he missed the first game.

Guy didn't really instill confidence in them either I bet. Whoever wins the starting job does it by default, and that isn't a good sign.

Lotus · 09-02-2011, 08:13 AM

How often does a QB get an unnecessary roughness penalty? Clemens should start simply because he is a bad man.

SmootSmack · 09-02-2011, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Wilso knows.

Grossman is the starter.

I tend to agree. Have kind of felt that way for a while

GusFrerotte · 09-02-2011, 12:20 AM

Damn I feel this is Nov 2012 and we have a choice between two shmucks for Pres. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Either choice is sort of lame anymore. Chase Daniel has had more of an impressive preseason than both of these guys statwise. I am almost wishing we still had JC, as our predicament is almost that bad. I see Rex getting hurt, and Beck losing games for us. I mean how can guys like Daniel and Bartel have solid preseasons and they are backups and this guy(Beck) has a mediocre one and I am supposed to think he is going to magically turn it on come 9-11-11 and be a solid starter for us? I really think we need to be concerned about our QB situation for 2011. I also believe we need to draft not one, but two QBs next year.

SirClintonPortis · 09-02-2011, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Damn I feel this is Nov 2012 and we have a choice between two shmucks for Pres. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Either choice is sort of lame anymore. Chase Daniel has had more of an impressive preseason than both of these guys statwise. I am almost wishing we still had JC, as our predicament is almost that bad. I see Rex getting hurt, and Beck losing games for us. I mean how can guys like Daniel and Bartel have solid preseasons and they are backups and this guy(Beck) has a mediocre one and I am supposed to think he is going to magically turn it on come 9-11-11 and be a solid starter for us? I really think we need to be concerned about our QB situation for 2011. I also believe we need to draft not one, but two QBs next year.

Grossman has been excellent this preseason and Beck's play has displayed established that baseline of mere competence and with the potential for plenty more. Both of them can execute Kyle's offense at a reasonable level that the passing game will have to be respected.

Campbell is a wuss who NEVER did well when he's about to get hit or was being hit. His vision went to crap and he just looked for Cooley. Not only that, but he was never particularly confident about "gunning it in", something BOTH Beck and Grossman have no qualms about.

Paintrain · 09-02-2011, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Damn I feel this is Nov 2012 and we have a choice between two shmucks for Pres. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Either choice is sort of lame anymore. Chase Daniel has had more of an impressive preseason than both of these guys statwise. I am almost wishing we still had JC, as our predicament is almost that bad. I see Rex getting hurt, and Beck losing games for us. I mean how can guys like Daniel and Bartel have solid preseasons and they are backups and this guy(Beck) has a mediocre one and I am supposed to think he is going to magically turn it on come 9-11-11 and be a solid starter for us? I really think we need to be concerned about our QB situation for 2011. I also believe we need to draft not one, but two QBs next year.

Only our damn fan base is concerned about next years draft before the regular season even begins. Really dude? Can't you wait until Oct. 1 at least until we have a pulse of the team? So annoying.

Swarley · 09-02-2011, 03:31 AM

not to mention that both QB's had a fairly good pre-season (besides this game for Beck)

irish · 09-02-2011, 06:49 AM

I wonder if the reason Beck has never established himself as a starter is that he's just not consistent from game to game, good game then bad game. He didnt look good at all last night.

Beemnseven · 09-02-2011, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

I wonder if the reason Beck has never established himself as a starter is that he's just not consistent from game to game, good game then bad game. He didnt look good at all last night.

He didn't look good "at all" last night? Really?

Sure, he had some throws that he'd like to have back, maybe more so than in any game we've seen so far in exhibition. But he still made some completions under pressure, with zip and accuracy in the intermediate yardage range that we never saw with either Donovan McNabb last year, nor with Jason Campbell the previous five years.

I don't know how with one bad night we can hang the Inconsistent Tag around his neck, as though it's going to be an ongoing problem with him. We just don't know that yet.

Chico23231 · 09-02-2011, 08:29 AM

Anyone who watched last night has to admitt Beck hurt his profile rather than helped. He shoulda been picked on 2-3 more throws than he did. That throw to the endzone was flat out bad that was intercepted. I still think he should start the year as the QB, but if he struggles throw Sexy in. Beck looked really uncomfortable last nite in the pocket and our interior line struggled with pass rush. Dunno, but last night the offense overall was the most disappointing anytime during the preaseason and this was against the 2s for Tampa.

CRedskinsRule · 09-02-2011, 08:32 AM

I would much rather start with Beck, and if necessary go to Grossman, then start with Grossman and then end with Beck if necessary.

Lotus · 09-02-2011, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I would much rather start with Beck, and if necessary go to Grossman, then start with Grossman and then end with Beck if necessary.

Yup. I'm still enamored with Beck's mobility. Plus, if Beck makes a mistake, it is a new thing, whereas if Grossman makes a mistake then you knew it was coming. I'd rather be surprised by bad times.

wilsowilso · 09-02-2011, 10:30 AM

If Shanahan remains true to the "best player" plays philosophy Grossman will be named the starter.

If the team is witness to a sham QB battle in which the better player gets benched how exactly does that benefit this "new culture" they are promoting over at Redskins Park?

Player_HTTR · 09-02-2011, 10:46 AM

I have it from an inside source that both Rex and Beck will start against the Giants. The Wildcat just got a whole lot sexier!

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09-01-2011, 11:47 PM	#1
Swarley The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 37 Posts: 1,092	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? For what it's worth Beck said that the reason he played today is cause the coaches wanted to give him a few more snaps since he missed the first game.

09-02-2011, 08:13 AM	#3
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? How often does a QB get an unnecessary roughness penalty? Clemens should start simply because he is a bad man. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

09-02-2011, 12:20 AM	#5
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? Damn I feel this is Nov 2012 and we have a choice between two shmucks for Pres. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Either choice is sort of lame anymore. Chase Daniel has had more of an impressive preseason than both of these guys statwise. I am almost wishing we still had JC, as our predicament is almost that bad. I see Rex getting hurt, and Beck losing games for us. I mean how can guys like Daniel and Bartel have solid preseasons and they are backups and this guy(Beck) has a mediocre one and I am supposed to think he is going to magically turn it on come 9-11-11 and be a solid starter for us? I really think we need to be concerned about our QB situation for 2011. I also believe we need to draft not one, but two QBs next year.

09-02-2011, 03:31 AM	#8
Swarley The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 37 Posts: 1,092	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? not to mention that both QB's had a fairly good pre-season (besides this game for Beck)

09-02-2011, 06:49 AM	#9
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? I wonder if the reason Beck has never established himself as a starter is that he's just not consistent from game to game, good game then bad game. He didnt look good at all last night.

09-02-2011, 08:29 AM	#11
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,307	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? Anyone who watched last night has to admitt Beck hurt his profile rather than helped. He shoulda been picked on 2-3 more throws than he did. That throw to the endzone was flat out bad that was intercepted. I still think he should start the year as the QB, but if he struggles throw Sexy in. Beck looked really uncomfortable last nite in the pocket and our interior line struggled with pass rush. Dunno, but last night the offense overall was the most disappointing anytime during the preaseason and this was against the 2s for Tampa. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

09-02-2011, 08:32 AM	#12
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 59 Posts: 21,744	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? I would much rather start with Beck, and if necessary go to Grossman, then start with Grossman and then end with Beck if necessary.

09-02-2011, 10:30 AM	#14
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 52 Posts: 2,841	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? If Shanahan remains true to the "best player" plays philosophy Grossman will be named the starter. If the team is witness to a sham QB battle in which the better player gets benched how exactly does that benefit this "new culture" they are promoting over at Redskins Park? Last edited by wilsowilso; 09-02-2011 at 10:31 AM.

09-02-2011, 10:46 AM	#15
Player_HTTR Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 328	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? I have it from an inside source that both Rex and Beck will start against the Giants. The Wildcat just got a whole lot sexier!

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