Who do you want to start at QB?

[SmootSmack]

It's not that he's 30. It's that he's 30 and has yet to prove anything.

[pg86]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's not that he's 30. It's that he's 30 and has yet to prove anything.

I got a good question....when has he had opportunity to prove anything?

Rex has gotten rediculous amounts of oppertunity

Remember what our beloved Darrell Green said " No matter how much talent you have it don't mean a thing if no one gives you the opportunity"

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by pg86

I got a good question....when has he had opportunity to prove anything?

Rex has gotten rediculous amounts of oppertunity

Remember what our beloved Darrell Green said " No matter how much talent you have it don't mean a thing if no one gives you the opportunity"

he's already failed in two cities. if you can't win the job, why would you think he'd be better than the guys he can't beat outright? It's not like he was sitting behind tom brady. he missed his shot in two VERY QB needy cities, and neither of those teams FO's had any problem letting him go.

step 3: winner?!?

[gafinfan]

I think Grossman will be the starter, why? If he's your guy how can you justify pulling him after only 5 games? Mike knew up front Gross was a turnover machine from the getgo and all the BS from Gross about turning a new leaf doesn't change that fact! 8 games as the starting QB and 19 turnovers can not be hidden from the light of day!

Mike can not afford to lose the locker room no matter what. When he does go to Beck it better be with the best possible chance for John to shine and there are some really tough games coming up for you guys. Thus making the wrong choice at this early stage could cost this team the whole season, whereas now, you still have a chance to win more than you lose.

John will still get his chance cause Grossman will sooner or later stink the place up badly enought that even Moss won't be in his corner. Its at that point John has his best chance to not only win the starter's job but also make this team his, for the long haul!

Remember both I and John Beck have seen this play out before, in 2007. I'm sure John does not want a repeat of that mess caused by a 1st year HC making a move fed only by fan pressure! Way to early and without proper preparation!

[irish]

Originally Posted by gafinfan

I think Grossman will be the starter, why? If he's your guy how can you justify pulling him after only 5 games? Mike knew up front Gross was a turnover machine from the getgo and all the BS from Gross about turning a new leaf doesn't change that fact! 8 games as the starting QB and 19 turnovers can not be hidden from the light of day!

Mike can not afford to lose the locker room no matter what. When he does go to Beck it better be with the best possible chance for John to shine and there are some really tough games coming up for you guys. Thus making the wrong choice at this early stage could cost this team the whole season, whereas now, you still have a chance to win more than you lose.

John will still get his chance cause Grossman will sooner or later stink the place up badly enought that even Moss won't be in his corner. Its at that point John has his best chance to not only win the starter's job but also make this team his, for the long haul!

Remember both I and John Beck have seen this play out before, in 2007. I'm sure John does not want a repeat of that mess caused by a 1st year HC making a move fed only by fan pressure! Way to early and without proper preparation!

Good point, if Shanny does put in Beck he wants it to be in the best possible position so he can succeed. With the first of 2 away games and a decimated O line I dont see this week as a good spot for success. Like you I think Rex will end up as the starter.

[irish]

Originally Posted by pg86

I got a good question....when has he had opportunity to prove anything?

Rex has gotten rediculous amounts of oppertunity

Remember what our beloved Darrell Green said " No matter how much talent you have it don't mean a thing if no one gives you the opportunity"

You have to make your opportunities and every time Beck gets a chance, whether with Miami or in camp competition with Rex, he hasnt made the most of those opportunities. Beck has had opportunities and hasnt stepped up, hopefully if he gets a 3rd opportunity this week he will finally make the most of it.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by pg86

I got a good question....when has he had opportunity to prove anything?

Rex has gotten rediculous amounts of oppertunity

Remember what our beloved Darrell Green said " No matter how much talent you have it don't mean a thing if no one gives you the opportunity"

Beck just got an opportunity as recently as two months ago.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Beck just got an opportunity as recently as two months ago.

Smoot, I think what most are saying is, when will Beck get the type of opportunity Rex is getting?

[Bucket]

If I wake up tomorrow and see that Rex is starting via source... I'm going back to bed for the rest of the day.

[44ever]

My thoughts exactly...
Rex Grossman vs. John Beck: What will Shanny do? - Box Seats - The Washington Post

[44ever]

I think Lavar makes the best argument for keeping Rex. Post Sports Live: Has the John Beck era begun? - The Washington Post

Just for the record, I want BECK!

[irish]

Originally Posted by 44ever

I think Lavar makes the best argument for keeping Rex. Post Sports Live: Has the John Beck era begun? - The Washington Post

Just for the record, I want BECK!

Good link. I find it interesting that the 1 guy who played in the NFL thinks Rex should start while the 2 sports writers dont. LaVar is completely right about stability and stability is one thing this organization hasnt had is a very long time.

For the record I'd stick with Rex (for Lavar's stability reason) because I think the O has so many problems that a QB change isnt going to suddenly make them a points scoring machine.

[Chico23231]

This thread is hilarious. Hearing support for Grossman and putting Becks on a pedestal. Our QB situation is truely inept and one of the worst situations in the league. Honest opinion from Grossman supporters, is it really taking a risk in starting Beck that crazy? Grossman is one of the worst rated QB in the league and his play is declining since the start of the season...how can people support this guy playing? Just baffled

[MTK]

18 turnovers for Rex in his 8 starts here. He's just killing us.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

18 turnovers for Rex in his 8 starts here. He's just killing us.

Rex sure isnt lighting things up but what happens if Beck goes in and stinks it up worse than Rex in the next 2 or 3 games? That would really paint Shanny into a corner. That is why I think Shanny wont be so fast to pull Rex because once he does he's played his hand and really limited his options.