I know it's only 2 games...

skinsfaninok · 09-21-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

These two wins are different from the two wins we had a few seasons ago. First of all, we've seen nearly 90% roster turnover in 2 short seasons under Shanahan. For the team to be playing so well this early is to be commended.

Secondly, and this is huge in my opinion, the Redskins have a committed a total of 6 penalties through the first two games. Six! Hell, we'd have six penalties in one drive two years ago. That's the the hallmark of a Joe Gibbs coached team, if you ask me.

The personnel moves this year have been solid. Every last one of them. Sure it would be nice to have depth here and there, but what team has all the parts? Look at the Colts and the Jags, you think they'd like to have John Beck right now? Considering we've been playing without 3 key players in our secondary for two games is an accomplishment to be proud of.

It's only two games, I know. But if we head into the bye week looking at 3-1, I think this team is headed to the playoffs.

If we beat Dallas we will be 4-0 in the bye week

12thMan · 09-21-2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If we beat Dallas we will be 4-0 in the bye week

You're assuming that we'll beat both Dallas and the Rams. Either way, 3-1 sounds better than 2-2.

skinsfaninok · 09-21-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

You're assuming that we'll beat both Dallas and the Rams. Either way, 3-1 sounds better than 2-2.

Dude we will beat STL by 10 this year Bank on it

12thMan · 09-21-2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Dude we will beat STL by 10 this year Bank on it

If we beat Dallas I'm not as concerned about what happens in St. Louis the following week. This will be a tough game. Romo has a chip on his shoulder (and ribs), D.Ware might be the best defensive player in the game, and it's their home opener.

Not to mention we don't play very well under the lights. Big, big test for the Redskins.

12thMan · 09-21-2011, 02:31 PM

And let me go on the record saying I'm eating crow regarding coach Shanahan. I hated that guy with all the Burgundy and Gold in me last year. Couldn't watch his pressers, didn't feel like posting anything negative about it. I just hated that dude. I felt he wasn't passionate about the great Redskins tradition and treated the players like children. I thought he was all around incompetent and the game had passed him by.

Well I'm on the record saying I was flat out wrong. This guy just needed his players to buy into his system and it takes time for that to happen. I suppose he'll add more of his guys next year and get rid of a few more of the old faces. With all the hoopla about Haynesworth, Portis, and McNabb what's been somewhat lost in this 2 year transition is that Shanahan has a chip on his shoulder too considering how he left Denver. If you think about it, to the city of Denver he was their Joe Gibbs. Fond memories of a championship year; the Elway years. Lots of fond memories he left behind in Denver.

skinsfaninok · 09-21-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

And let me go on the record saying I'm eating crow regarding coach Shanahan. I hated that guy with all the Burgundy and Gold in me last year. Couldn't watch his pressers, didn't feel like posting anything negative about it. I just hated that dude. I felt he wasn't passionate about the great Redskins tradition and treated the players like children. I thought he was all around incompetent and the game had passed him by.

Well I'm on the record saying I was flat out wrong. This guy just needed his players to buy into his system and it takes time for that to happen. I suppose he'll add more of his guys next year and get rid of a few more of the old faces. With all the hoopla about Haynesworth, Portis, and McNabb what's been somewhat lost in this 2 year transition is that Shanahan has a chip on his shoulder too considering how he left Denver. If you think about it, to the city of Denver he was their Joe Gibbs. Fond memories of a championship year; the Elway years. Lots of fond memories he left behind in Denver.

I'm not the one to say "I Told u so" But 12th I told u so! Lol hey the guy is a damn good football coach and last year I was just as mad as u were, the whole Mcnabb and A.H thing was retarded BUT..... Now he's got HIS team and this is what I've been waiting for as a SKINS fan for a LONG time.. We have a coach that has won 2 Super Bowls and a GM that knows how to build a winner! HTTR

That Guy · 09-21-2011, 02:36 PM

met expectations. we beat the giants pretty good, but their starting D is on IR. We could have put 40 on the cards, but instead barely squeaked out with a win. The OL and secondary have some issues, and for those 3 reasons its met vs exceeded.

MTK · 09-21-2011, 02:41 PM

Any coach is going to need time to get players to buy in, and to bring in "his" guys. Shanahan has done a great job of reshaping the roster. And that much maligned switch to the 3-4 is paying dividends. I'm really not shocked at our early success. Shanahan is the kind of coach that works tirelessly and studies the game obsessively. He didn't take this job to just collect a paycheck. He's here to win.

Coming into this year I did think we would be much improved on both sides of the ball, but I thought it might take some time for things to come together. So from that perspective I am surprised at how well we've played.

skinsfaninok · 09-21-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Any coach is going to need time to get players to buy in, and to bring in "his" guys. Shanahan has done a great job of reshaping the roster. And that much maligned switch to the 3-4 is paying dividends. I'm really not shocked at our early success. Shanahan is the kind of coach that works tirelessly and studies the game obsessively. He didn't take this job to just collect a paycheck. He's here to win.

Coming into this year I did think we would be much improved on both sides of the ball, but I thought it might take some time for things to come together. So from that perspective I am surprised at how well we've played.

EXACTLY! Shanny didn't come to re build he came to get a team going fast and he's done a great job so far

NYCskinfan82 · 09-21-2011, 03:00 PM

We are playing like a TEAM, putting out a GOOD TEAM effort. IMO.

SmootSmack · 09-21-2011, 03:01 PM

So what's all this about the Establishment?

mooby · 09-21-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So what's all this about the Establishment?

It's the establishment man! yeah! always trying to bring the people down! you people just sit there eating what the establishment feeds you and you don't know any better!

skinsfan69 · 09-21-2011, 04:27 PM

Everyone....it's TWO FREAKIN GAMES! It's better than 1-1 or 0-2 but let's keep it real. We beat a beat up Giants team and barely beat a below average Cards team w/ a piss poor defense that had to travel cross country to play a 10am game. I like this team so far, they've got heart, they've been well coached, but I'm not going to say they've "exceeded expectations" after these two wins. We should be 3-0 after next week cause Dallas is getting killed w/ injuries. Right now we're getting all the breaks.

GTripp0012 · 09-21-2011, 11:55 PM

It's just two weeks and it's not like they've been other-worldly or anything, but "pretty solid" vastly exceeds my expectations for this team. And so far, they've been pretty solid.

#56fanatic · 09-22-2011, 07:07 AM

It has been only two games so the optomism is a bit held back at this point.

BUT>> man has this team really showed me something these two weeks. Last year or years before we would be 0-2. We never beat the damn Giants, and we would have never made a play to win the game last week. Leaps and bounds better than last year, especially up front on the oline. Same guys really with additions of Chester and moving Montgomery to center, but they really seem to be working together. The D Line, I never thought the front 3 would have come together so quickly. I could notice a difference in the 1st preseason game. And if we had Jarvis Jenkins playing, I think we would be even better. Overall, I am EXTREMELY excited with the direction the team, organization SEEMS to be moving.

I have been pleased with Rex and his ability to take whats there and not make stupid throws and being able to make plays in both games that won the game for us. The throw to Moss last week, ok maybe not a good one, but looked like MOss fell and the one that tipped off Armstrongs hands should have been PI against the Giants (dude was holding his arm down!)

The running of Hightower and Helu last week was great. I am hoping we keep the two coming in and out more frequently vs playing hightower so much as we did week 1. We need him to be healthy and fresh towards the end of the year. But, what makes it better for us is we have a guy 3rd string that was the projected starter at the end of the year, so if either of the two go down, we have a more than capable guy to step up.

only 2 games, but man am I excited...more excited than I have been since 2000

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09-21-2011, 02:36 PM	#7
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: I know it's only 2 games... met expectations. we beat the giants pretty good, but their starting D is on IR. We could have put 40 on the cards, but instead barely squeaked out with a win. The OL and secondary have some issues, and for those 3 reasons its met vs exceeded.

09-21-2011, 02:41 PM	#8
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,048	Re: I know it's only 2 games... Any coach is going to need time to get players to buy in, and to bring in "his" guys. Shanahan has done a great job of reshaping the roster. And that much maligned switch to the 3-4 is paying dividends. I'm really not shocked at our early success. Shanahan is the kind of coach that works tirelessly and studies the game obsessively. He didn't take this job to just collect a paycheck. He's here to win. Coming into this year I did think we would be much improved on both sides of the ball, but I thought it might take some time for things to come together. So from that perspective I am surprised at how well we've played. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-21-2011, 03:00 PM	#10
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 56 Posts: 3,803	Re: I know it's only 2 games... We are playing like a TEAM, putting out a GOOD TEAM effort. IMO.

09-21-2011, 03:01 PM	#11
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: I know it's only 2 games... So what's all this about the Establishment? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-21-2011, 02:31 PM	#5
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: I know it's only 2 games... And let me go on the record saying I'm eating crow regarding coach Shanahan. I hated that guy with all the Burgundy and Gold in me last year. Couldn't watch his pressers, didn't feel like posting anything negative about it. I just hated that dude. I felt he wasn't passionate about the great Redskins tradition and treated the players like children. I thought he was all around incompetent and the game had passed him by. Well I'm on the record saying I was flat out wrong. This guy just needed his players to buy into his system and it takes time for that to happen. I suppose he'll add more of his guys next year and get rid of a few more of the old faces. With all the hoopla about Haynesworth, Portis, and McNabb what's been somewhat lost in this 2 year transition is that Shanahan has a chip on his shoulder too considering how he left Denver. If you think about it, to the city of Denver he was their Joe Gibbs. Fond memories of a championship year; the Elway years. Lots of fond memories he left behind in Denver.

09-21-2011, 04:27 PM	#13
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,591	Re: I know it's only 2 games... Everyone....it's TWO FREAKIN GAMES! It's better than 1-1 or 0-2 but let's keep it real. We beat a beat up Giants team and barely beat a below average Cards team w/ a piss poor defense that had to travel cross country to play a 10am game. I like this team so far, they've got heart, they've been well coached, but I'm not going to say they've "exceeded expectations" after these two wins. We should be 3-0 after next week cause Dallas is getting killed w/ injuries. Right now we're getting all the breaks.

09-21-2011, 11:55 PM	#14
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: I know it's only 2 games... It's just two weeks and it's not like they've been other-worldly or anything, but "pretty solid" vastly exceeds my expectations for this team. And so far, they've been pretty solid. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

09-22-2011, 07:07 AM	#15
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: I know it's only 2 games... It has been only two games so the optomism is a bit held back at this point. BUT>> man has this team really showed me something these two weeks. Last year or years before we would be 0-2. We never beat the damn Giants, and we would have never made a play to win the game last week. Leaps and bounds better than last year, especially up front on the oline. Same guys really with additions of Chester and moving Montgomery to center, but they really seem to be working together. The D Line, I never thought the front 3 would have come together so quickly. I could notice a difference in the 1st preseason game. And if we had Jarvis Jenkins playing, I think we would be even better. Overall, I am EXTREMELY excited with the direction the team, organization SEEMS to be moving. I have been pleased with Rex and his ability to take whats there and not make stupid throws and being able to make plays in both games that won the game for us. The throw to Moss last week, ok maybe not a good one, but looked like MOss fell and the one that tipped off Armstrongs hands should have been PI against the Giants (dude was holding his arm down!) The running of Hightower and Helu last week was great. I am hoping we keep the two coming in and out more frequently vs playing hightower so much as we did week 1. We need him to be healthy and fresh towards the end of the year. But, what makes it better for us is we have a guy 3rd string that was the projected starter at the end of the year, so if either of the two go down, we have a more than capable guy to step up. only 2 games, but man am I excited...more excited than I have been since 2000

I know it's only 2 games...

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