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[Alvin Walton]

If Beck isn't going to start then he can crew Dans new yacht.

[hooskins]

What if my parents didn't meet? What if the perfect amount of cosmic material was not present to facilitate the Big Bang?

You can go on and on with "what ifs" and you will never reach any logical conclusion. In the end you make the best decision with what you have got, try to be as proactive as you can but if you are successful there isn't a need for change.

[fanarchist]

Originally Posted by hooskins

What if my parents didn't meet? What if the perfect amount of cosmic material was not present to facilitate the Big Bang?

You can go on and on with "what ifs" and you will never reach any logical conclusion. In the end you make the best decision with what you have got, try to be as proactive as you can but if you are successful there isn't a need for change.

This is not one of those hypothetical past "what if" scenarios that the coaching staff has no way of proving or impacting. The "what if", in this case, can easily be remedied if you simply play the guy.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by hooskins

What if my parents didn't meet? What if the perfect amount of cosmic material was not present to facilitate the Big Bang?

You can go on and on with "what ifs" and you will never reach any logical conclusion. In the end you make the best decision with what you have got, try to be as proactive as you can but if you are successful there isn't a need for change.

Then why run Torain instead of Helu? What if we didnt change it up and give Torain a shot? It was only last week everyone in here was on the Hightower #1RB Helu #2 RB bandwagon, now it seems that since Torain has reasserted himself, most want Torain against the Eagles. This was before word of Hightowers injury was released. Sometimes you have to try something new even when you are winning.

Shanahan said it himself "you cant go off statistics alone" well W-L is a statistic in itself. Its the way your winning and losing that counts.

Grossman is not winning 3-1 the way say Tom Brady is winning 3-1

Not saying Grossman has to be Brady (or ever will be) but just illustrating
the difference in 3-1

I believe with Beck we would be 4-0 right now and have a better chance of going 4-1 game 5. Grossman better put his fast shoes on because the Eagles will be coming at him every play. I also believe game 5 will be the deciding factor in Rex's future as starting QB for the Skins. I guess we wait and see.

With all that said, I do hope Rex shows up. HTTR!

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by 44ever

I believe with Beck we would be 4-0 right now

More like 1-3 maybe 2-2. Possibly 0-4.

Bye the way I have been watching the replay of that colossal Santana Moss screw up during the Rams game.

That was a horrible mistake! Worst play of the game by a Redskin. BY FAR!

He basically turned a huge gain and probable TD and massive momentum in the game 180 degrees by dropping an EASY EASY perfectly placed pass. Not only does he drop it he actually deflects it to about the worst freaking place you can send a ball off your hands in the middle of the field.

Dear Santana. That was total bullshit. TERRIBLE.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by hooskins

What if my parents didn't meet? What if the perfect amount of cosmic material was not present to facilitate the Big Bang?

You can go on and on with "what ifs" and you will never reach any logical conclusion. In the end you make the best decision with what you have got, try to be as proactive as you can but if you are successful there isn't a need for change.

Hey dude I was addressing your question.
It made more sense to answer in question form because I can only speculate.
Would it make you feel better if my answers to your questions were in the declarative:

Originally Posted by hooskins

If you have no problems with 3-1 why change? To me if you are content with where we are now why change what got us there?

The coaching staff is aiming for optimal performance now to avoid losses in the future. In short they're not content to merely win they're looking for optimal execution or as Mike Shanahan said they're looking for perfection.

Rex should have made more plays in the Cowboys game and that cost us the victory.

Beck can likely provide the plays missing from the Rex in the Cowboys game.

See now you're parents did meet.

-Cheers

[hooskins]

Sure, but like I said no need to make a change if you achieving your goal of winnings games.

You don't just do something because you are unsure of the possible outcome. What if I went up to my boss and demanded a raise or else? Well I am not going to do that right now because I am getting a fair-market value and secure position in a tough economic climate. There would be no need for me to take such a "what if" action. Same applies in this situation. You can "what if" all you want, but in the end, change is not needed nor wanted by the owner, coach or players (the only ones that matter in this decision if I may add). All we do is win win win!

[fanarchist]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Sure, but like I said no need to make a change if you achieving your goal of winnings games.

You don't just do something because you are unsure of the possible outcome. What if I went up to my boss and demanded a raise or else? Well I am not going to do that right now because I am getting a fair-market value and secure position in a tough economic climate. There would be no need for me to take such a "what if" action. Same applies in this situation. You can "what if" all you want, but in the end, change is not needed nor wanted by the owner, coach or players (the only ones that matter in this decision if I may add). All we do is win win win!

If you had been on the job long enough that you'd facilitated an atmosphere where you were clearly an irreplaceable commodity there would be no reason why you shouldn't have the gusto to demand a raise. Rex has not quelled the pre-existing doubts with his perfomances, and has not proven to be that irreplaceable leader who is a force that will drive this franchise forward. Therefore he is expendable, and the next guy in line should be afforded the same opportunity to prove or disprove his merit. Someone who does just enough to get by is often overlooked for potentially greener pastures. But if your hypothetical solution is to manacle yourself to an underwhelming player out of fear that the ramifications for change would be to risky, it seems stagnant to me, but it's your perspective.

Isn't it always the easiest out to say, the coaches make the decisions, and abandon any independent thought outside of that? They are human, and they too are capable of flaw.

[irish]

Originally Posted by fanarchist

If you had been on the job long enough that you'd facilitated an atmosphere where you were clearly an irreplaceable commodity there would be no reason why you shouldn't have the gusto to demand a raise. Rex has not quelled the pre-existing doubts with his perfomances, and has not proven to be that irreplaceable leader who is a force that will drive this franchise forward. Therefore he is expendable, and the next guy in line should be afforded the same opportunity to prove or disprove his merit. Someone who does just enough to get by is often overlooked for potentially greener pastures. But if your hypothetical solution is to manacle yourself to an underwhelming player out of fear that the ramifications for change would be to risky, it seems stagnant to me, but it's your perspective.

Isn't it always the easiest out to say, the coaches make the decisions, and abandon any independent thought outside of that? They are human, and they too are capable of flaw.

If there's one thing I've learned its that nobody, no matter who they are or what they do, is irreplaceable.

[fanarchist]

Originally Posted by irish

If there's one thing I've learned its that nobody, no matter who they are or what they do, is irreplaceable.

At this point in their careers Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers, London Fletcher, Patrick Willis, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, and it didn't seem too easy to replace the production of Peyton Manning either. There are some people whos overall contribution to their team can not be replaced.

[irish]

Originally Posted by fanarchist

At this point in their careers Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers, London Fletcher, Patrick Willis, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, and it didn't seem too easy to replace the production of Peyton Manning either. There are some people whos overall contribution to their team can not be replaced.

If memory serves, when Brady was hurt Cassel came in and the team went something like 15-1. Brett Favre left and Rogers came in. When properly planned for the replacement is invisable, the Colts just didnt plan well. Time and the team goes on.

[MTK]

I wish it were possible to give a thread a negative rating.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I wish it were possible to give a thread a negative rating.

If anyone can make it happen, it's you! We believe in you!

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I wish it were possible to give a thread a negative rating.

lololololololololol

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I wish it were possible to give a thread a negative rating.

Matty, You felt the same way about the Campbell threads too. But it turned out most people were right about him. He stinks. And it didn't take you long to fall in love with DM. altho that didn't go well either.

How the heck is any Redskins fan willing to put up with that crap again (Grossmans play) without at least saying something about it? I know it has been a long time but have some people actually forgot what it takes to win?

I know, I know 3-1...

Grossman INT - YouTube