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Old 10-07-2011, 10:49 AM   #1
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I think the Eagles game will determine everything.
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:55 AM   #2
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Wow, this thread still going huh? Impressive
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Old 10-07-2011, 12:04 PM   #3
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Old 10-07-2011, 12:34 PM   #4
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Beck is awesome.
He should be starting for the Packers.
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Old 10-07-2011, 02:09 PM   #5
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If you mean passing yards and TD totals then I do agree, not any QB could produce those numbers for NE. But like a lot of Redskins fans you seem to be stuck on meaningless passing, rushing, defense, etc, numbers. The only numbers that count are 3-1 (for both the Skins and NE) and in that case yes, I think NE could plug any QB in and the team would be 3-1.
With NE's horrible defense? Please. Brady has to put up all those yards and points because the Pats d is giving up almost as much as Brady is putting out.
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Old 10-07-2011, 02:56 PM   #6
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Shanahan said Grossman will be judged on wins and loses, does that mean if the D suddenly gives up for the next 3 games and we lose the next 3 games, Grossman will be pulled simply because we would have more loses than wins? No, Grossman is in control of his own destiny and if he continues to play the way he has been, he will be pulled.

Some of you are so content with 3-1 that your afraid to change anything at this point, I understand that but disagree with the logic.
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:17 PM   #7
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Shanahan said Grossman will be judged on wins and loses, does that mean if the D suddenly gives up for the next 3 games and we lose the next 3 games, Grossman will be pulled simply because we would have more loses than wins? No, Grossman is in control of his own destiny and if he continues to play the way he has been, he will be pulled.

Some of you are so content with 3-1 that your afraid to change anything at this point, I understand that but disagree with the logic.
Good post. There's no reason to think Mike will stick w/ any particular QB if he thinks the guy in waiting will produce more wins. One thing we absolutely know about our HC is he is all about winning.

I also agree Grossman controls his own destiny outside of Kyle's playcalling and gameplan. Sure Rex can make better decisions and avoid forcing the ball to covered targets. It also seems like it would be damn easy for him start protecting the ball when he's trying to waddle away from rushers. Those things are certainly in his control. On the other hand Kyle could help minimize errors by committing more to the run, especially when we have a hell of a RB corp, and giving Rex more downfield looks rather than lateral ones. Missing Armstrong obviously hurts but still we could throw the deep ball a lot more to Davis and Tana. Play-action should also be worked in more IMO.
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when he's trying to waddle away from rushers.
I was having kind of a downer day, this made me LOL and I'm still laughing when I picture the visual. Hilarious.
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Old 10-07-2011, 04:28 PM   #9
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Good post. There's no reason to think Mike will stick w/ any particular QB if he thinks the guy in waiting will produce more wins. One thing we absolutely know about our HC is he is all about winning.

I also agree Grossman controls his own destiny outside of Kyle's playcalling and gameplan. Sure Rex can make better decisions and avoid forcing the ball to covered targets. It also seems like it would be damn easy for him start protecting the ball when he's trying to waddle away from rushers. Those things are certainly in his control. On the other hand Kyle could help minimize errors by committing more to the run, especially when we have a hell of a RB corp, and giving Rex more downfield looks rather than lateral ones. Missing Armstrong obviously hurts but still we could throw the deep ball a lot more to Davis and Tana. Play-action should also be worked in more IMO.
That may be the only thing outside of his own ability that can save his job. But we may sacrifice Torain down the stretch if we have to go to the run to much. With Hightower hurt, we need to be careful.

The bye is going to seem like forever but came at a good time. Hopefully they can put some schemes in place in time to help Rex out.
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Old 10-08-2011, 11:50 AM   #10
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That may be the only thing outside of his own ability that can save his job. But we may sacrifice Torain down the stretch if we have to go to the run to much. With Hightower hurt, we need to be careful.

The bye is going to seem like forever but came at a good time. Hopefully they can put some schemes in place in time to help Rex out.
Between Torain, Helu and TH we shouldn't have to overwork any particular runner. Personally I think the long term picture for TH is more 3rd down back action, though I could be totally mistaken. Torain is a stud and Helu IMO is a very special RB.

I'm not too worried about leaning on the rushing attack. Mike has been doing it throughout his career. It also tends to wear out defenses much better right, which will be important down the stretch.
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:42 PM   #11
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I was watching the Kurt Warner story last night on NFLN watching Trent Green go down on a team with big aspirations, and hearing Dick Vermeil say that they would rally around Kurt Warner. I was thinking to myself what if Rex went down; Would Beck be like a Kurt Warner. I would love to see the somewhat unknown Beck play over the known Grossman.
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:53 AM   #13
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So, just to clarify. By this logic a team that is ranked 32nd in passing, and 32nd in rushing is considered a "balanced attack".
Its awful but its a balanced awful. (And either the OC or the HC is joining ESPN the following year!)
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Old 10-08-2011, 10:07 AM   #14
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Its awful but its a balanced awful. (And either the OC or the HC is joining ESPN the following year!)
This. That just means it's equal parts awful. Balanced yes, effective no.
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:16 PM   #15
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In case there were any questions on how to "be a man".

How to Be a Man

(I didnt see anything regarding "taking responsibility for your Redskins fans message board posts" in there, oh well......)

another note.....what if fanarchist is a female? Should she still try and "be a man?" If yes, fanarchist, a helpful link below.....


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