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BigHairedAristocrat · 10-16-2011, 04:37 PM

I dont hate grossman as much as I hate whichever shanahan decided let him pass so much in the first place. The eagles run defense is among the Worst in the league while their pass defense is one of the best. The run to pass ratio should have been 2:1

Ruhskins · 10-16-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I dont hate grossman as much as I hate whichever shanahan decided let him pass so much in the first place. The eagles run defense is among the Worst in the league while their pass defense is one of the best. The run to pass ratio should have been 2:1

or keep him after the second INT.

hooskins · 10-16-2011, 04:39 PM

How good does Jason Campbell look right about now? Better than Grossman and Beck IMO.

Defensewins · 10-16-2011, 04:41 PM

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How good does Jason Campbell look right about now? Better than Grossman and Beck IMO.

We have not seen anything of Beck yet. We do not yet know for sure what we have in Beck. Hopefully we will see in the next week or two. It is too soon to make that comment.

Ruhskins · 10-16-2011, 05:10 PM

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We have not seen anything of Beck yet. We do not yet know for sure what we have in Beck. Hopefully we will see in the next week or two. It is too soon to make that comment.

Agree. Back up QBs always have a bit of an advantage when subbing in. Starting for the team after the opponent has time to gameplan against you is a whole different ball game. Yet I still think MS needs to make the call to start Beck ASAP.

Ruhskins · 10-16-2011, 04:42 PM

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How good does Jason Campbell look right about now? Better than Grossman and Beck IMO.

I wish Shanahan would have had the balls to keep Campbell the way Harbaugh kept A. Smith. It would have made our draft strategy for the past two offseasons much better if we had not wasted picks on McNabb. Oh well, could've, should've, would've.

hooskins · 10-16-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I dont hate grossman as much as I hate whichever shanahan decided let him pass so much in the first place. The eagles run defense is among the Worst in the league while their pass defense is one of the best. The run to pass ratio should have been 2:1

Easy to say. They were stacking up against our run and it was going nowhere. Couple that with two starting OLs out for the game. Again, easy to say.

hooskins · 10-16-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

We have not seen anything of Beck yet. We do not yet know for sure what we have in Beck. Hopefully we will see in the next week or two. It is too soon to make that comment.

Not soon enough for me. I've seen plenty of Campbell and enough of Beck. Campbell is better.

irish · 10-16-2011, 05:04 PM

Rex stunk but I suspect he will start next week.

Alvin Walton · 10-16-2011, 05:11 PM

I have a hard time giving a feck what Jason Butterfingers Campbell is doing today.
When he was here, he sucked.

skinsnut · 10-16-2011, 05:25 PM

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I have a hard time giving a feck what Jason Butterfingers Campbell is doing today.
When he was here, he sucked.

I don't think I would say Campbell ever totally "sucked".
He just wasn't good, he rarely lost games for us, he rarely won them too.
He didn't throw a lot of picks, but he did take sacks...he was coached by Gibbs who told him to throw it away or take a sack instead of throwing into double coverage the way Grossman does chronically.

Campbell is a game manager and that is all, ironically, that is what we kind of need right now...of course better that that would be good too, which is what they thought they'd get with McNabb...if Beck can get to Campbell's level, I'd say we got a steal from the Ravens when we got him.
I sure hope Beck can manage a game without turning the damn ball over so much they way Grossman does

Beemnseven · 10-16-2011, 05:26 PM

Unless Ryan Kerrigan turns into a year-in year-out All Pro, (and I think he could), not taking a QB in the last draft might be legitimately questioned.

Especially if there's still not going to be a QB worth taking next year. How long can you go without even starting to look for your quarterback of the future?

Chico23231 · 10-16-2011, 05:56 PM

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Unless Ryan Kerrigan turns into a year-in year-out All Pro, (and I think he could), not taking a QB in the last draft might be legitimately questioned.

Especially if there's still not going to be a QB worth taking next year. How long can you go without even starting to look for your quarterback of the future?

No way, Kerrigan was the right choice. The QB last draft class wasnt very good. We made the right moves in the draft.

This year's top prospects are much higher quality guys IMO. Much better.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 10-16-2011, 06:04 PM

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No way, Kerrigan was the right choice. The QB last draft class wasnt very good. We made the right moves in the draft.

This year's top prospects are much higher quality guys IMO. Much better.

agree 100%

Hail to the Redskins · 10-16-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

No way, Kerrigan was the right choice. The QB last draft class wasnt very good. We made the right moves in the draft.

This year's top prospects are much higher quality guys IMO. Much better.

Not to start an argument, but this QB class wasn't good, huh??

Newton is lighting it up and Dalton has been very effective... leading the Bengals to a 4-2 record. Ponder looked decent in preseason as well... can't judge this class yet, really, but they aren't terrible I know that and I know there is at least 2 that are better than what we have now.

Kerrigan was the right choice... but right now, I think I'd take Dalton over Hankerson, Gomes, and Hurd combined.... that's just me.

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BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread I dont hate grossman as much as I hate whichever shanahan decided let him pass so much in the first place. The eagles run defense is among the Worst in the league while their pass defense is one of the best. The run to pass ratio should have been 2:1 __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

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irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread Rex stunk but I suspect he will start next week.

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Alvin Walton Pro Bowl Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 5,741	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread I have a hard time giving a feck what Jason Butterfingers Campbell is doing today. When he was here, he sucked. __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968

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Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 52 Posts: 5,311	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread Unless Ryan Kerrigan turns into a year-in year-out All Pro, (and I think he could), not taking a QB in the last draft might be legitimately questioned. Especially if there's still not going to be a QB worth taking next year. How long can you go without even starting to look for your quarterback of the future?

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