'Occupy' types

[hooskins]

There is one thing I do disagree with when it comes to criticizing OWS. I think they are effective, in that we are talking about this and they are getting great media coverage. In terms of creating real and lasting change, that is yet to be seen but they clearly have an impact. That's why I think a lot of people think it's way too simplistic to just paint them as hippies who will never make any impact. (Just like it is too simplistic to paint the Tea Party as religious right wing nutjobs).

Like Lotus said, the movement reflects a general feeling of distrust and anger towards our government, which I think something members in the Right and Left share. OWS simply isn't going to go away based on police patrols and tear gas. As mentioned before, it would be interesting to see if they do start organizing a bit more in terms of concrete goals and measures.

I may just be repeating points in different ways, but I think it's wrong to say OWS is completely ineffective.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by hooskins

There is one thing I do disagree with when it comes to criticizing OWS. I think they are effective, in that we are talking about this and they are getting great media coverage. In terms of creating real and lasting change, that is yet to be seen but they clearly have an impact. That's why I think a lot of people think it's way too simplistic to just paint them as hippies who will never make any impact. (Just like it is too simplistic to paint the Tea Party as religious right wing nutjobs).

Like Lotus said, the movement reflects a general feeling of distrust and anger towards our government, which I think something members in the Right and Left share. OWS simply isn't going to go away based on police patrols and tear gas. As mentioned before, it would be interesting to see if they do start organizing a bit more in terms of concrete goals and measures.

I may just be repeating points in different ways, but I think it's wrong to say OWS is completely ineffective.

Well said, I would agree. The question that, however, looms is "Okay, where do we go from here?" Two more months of standing in the park creating a health hazard and disrupting traffic gets us where? In a little over one year, their will be a significant election - an opportunity to effect some real change, if only on an incremental scale. What's the plan guys? Get out of the park and get some folks out there who can be in a position to effect change - the time is now.

[NC_Skins]

Yeah guys. All this media coverage I see shows these guys to be stupid, and want free shit. *rolls eyes*


Try reading this:


BBC News - The start of something new?

The people I talk to are earnest, intelligent and mostly young.

Most of the coverage of the Occupy movements that I have seen suggests the movement is incoherent in its demands.

Not in Nashville. In one way or another, everyone I talk to says the problem is that big corporations dictate politics in America.

Now. Look at this media compared to the trash you guys are looking at. Now you see why I have such disdain for corporate media in America?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Yeah guys. All this media coverage I see shows these guys to be stupid, and want free shit. *rolls eyes*

Try reading this:

BBC News - The start of something new?

Now. Look at this media compared to the trash you guys are looking at. Now you see why I have such disdain for corporate media in America?

Strangely enough, every time I type in "Who is in OWS" or something similar I get a wide range of opinions from a variety of outlets; some just as blatantly slanted in the other direction - to read them you would believe that everyone in the OWS is a college graduate and that the park is a true utopia of clean living occupied by philosopher kings/queens.

Yes. Some media outlets cater to certain crowds. As I said earlier, the facts are out there and they show that OWS is made up of both the educated and the stupid; of free loaders and truly disenfranchised; and of people with high ideals and others with somewhat baser instincts. Which groups are emphasized depend on what channel you tune in.

[over the mountain]

i might just join occupy baltimore this sunday . . .drunk. im kinda pissed off right now and im sober.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i might just join occupy baltimore this sunday . . .drunk. im kinda pissed off right now and im sober.

I'd go while the game on.

[NC_Skins]

Brief intermission.

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[firstdown]

Need someting a little more relaxing for a Friday,

Cool Change Little River Band - YouTube

[Alvin Walton]

I'll do a hug but I'm not going to shave with steamy mirrors in the shower with you guys.

[JoeRedskin]

I am all for a group hug but want to make sure we first have a concrete, detailed plan for the time, place and duration of the hug and an equally detailed action plan for the post hug debate.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I am all for a group hug but want to make sure we first have a concrete, detailed plan for the time, place and duration of the hug and an equally detailed action plan for the post hug debate.

I'm bringing rubber bullets to the group hug.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I am all for a group hug but want to make sure we first have a concrete, detailed plan for the time, place and duration of the hug and an equally detailed action plan for the post hug debate.

Lets pass on the group hug and just get together and have a few beers out on the lawn and talk things over.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by firstdown

lets pass on the group hug and just get together and have a few beers out on the lawn and talk things over.

Occupy firstdowns lawn!

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I am all for a group hug but want to make sure we first have a concrete, detailed plan for the time, place and duration of the hug and an equally detailed action plan for the post hug debate.

Meanwhile group hugging...over 75% of mutual funds(most of the countries 401ks) are down and bankers are still managing record bonuses. usually when my company performs poorly, I dont get a bonus, like most people. So it makes sense right? Baby boomers are struggling to retire, but Wall Street bankers get record bonuses? Guess we dont deserve an explination.

Meanwhile Exxon doing great DIRECTLY because of higher prices at the pump:

Exxon Mobil Profit Tops $10 Billion on Crude Oil Price Surge - Businessweek

i guess its easier just to blame obama

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Meanwhile group hugging...over 75% of mutual funds(most of the countries 401ks) are down and bankers are still managing record bonuses. usually when my company performs poorly, I dont get a bonus, like most people. So it makes sense right? Baby boomers are struggling to retire, but Wall Street bankers get record bonuses? Guess we dont deserve an explination.

Meanwhile Exxon doing great DIRECTLY because of higher prices at the pump:

Exxon Mobil Profit Tops $10 Billion on Crude Oil Price Surge - Businessweek

i guess its easier just to blame obama

The problem is no one cares what these guys make when their 401 or investment is doing good but when they take the downward trun that when people start to care. This is not a job for the federal gov. its time for the investors, stock holders, and employees to stand their ground and say enough is enough. I also find it funny how the left has igniored the profits of the oil companies now that Obama is in office.