Sex Abuse Scandal Rocks Penn State

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Sandusky abuse claims date back to 1994, grand jury says - CNN.com

..but..but....guys, I didn't know! Hell, I think at this point with all those allegations and stuff prior to 2002 incident, they should be charging McQueary, Joe Paterno and their school president.

Wow, that time line has allot of people who let this thing slide on for 10 yrs. It almost makes you think that each incident at the time did not seem to throw up the big red flag but you put them all together and it seems hard to believe.

[freddyg12]

M. Millen mentioned "due process" & that "taking care of it myself" was not the "right way" to do things. He also said let the investigators do their job.

I think it's best that Joe Pa step down asap. However, that should not mean that he's been conspiring to protect Sandusky all these years. Of course we can say he should've done more, but don't put a disproportionate amount of blame on JoePa. One day he'll tell his side & I think it may change some minds, even if he's still to blame.

On the other hand, I'm open to the possibility that he also used Sandusky for leverage. So, yeah, there's more to learn about this before we crucify anyone (though Sandusky needs a miracle to be found not guilty).

Smootsmack et al, here's a conspiracy theory for ya; remember when JoePa's job was in jeopardy & there was talk of him resigning? Could keeping quiet on this been part of a deal to keep his job?

[Dirtbag59]

Paterno has been involved in several controversial scandals including being forced to apologize for a profanity-laced tirade directed at then Rutgers head coach Doug Graber at the conclusion of a nationally televised game in 1995,[22] being accused of "making light of sexual assault" in 2006 by the National Organization for Women which called for his resignation,[23] and being involved in a road rage incident in 2007.[24]

[skinsfaninok]

I've lost respect for JOPA this is a total disgrace and is disgusting that no one did anything.. Paterno should have been fired

[SmootSmack]

His statement really only makes him sound sorry he finally got caught. And he really should step down right away. And should spend the rest of his life doing everything he can helping the victims, not so much the university.

Still, I can't imagine what a horrible fall for grace this is for Paterno

[NC_Skins]

Smoot. Please pat Stephen Smith and Skip Bayless on the back for me with their hard stance on Joe Pa getting fired immediately.

Should Paterno Be Allowed To Coach? - ESPN Video - ESPN

[skinsfan69]

Anyone read the grand jury report? Some pretty sick shit. Sandusky was having anal sex and giving blow jobs to 10 year old boys!!!!! And no one called the cops??? WTF??? To think that Paterno and his cronnies were covering for this POS just makes me sick. Paterno thinks he should coach on Sat. The guy actually thinks he's bigger than this whole scandal. Amazing.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Anyone read the grand jury report? Paterno thinks he should coach on Sat. The guy actually thinks he's bigger than this whole scandal. Amazing.

I'm going to pass on the GJ report because it'll probably infuriate me that much more. Without a doubt Paterno thinks he's bigger than the whole scandal, and he's doing this for selfish reasons. He wants to do what's right for the school, then he would indeed step down and not coach ever again.


Penn State should not allow Joe Paterno to retire on his terms - ESPN

Great article by J. Hill and good interview with LZ Granderson.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I'm going to pass on the GJ report because it'll probably infuriate me that much more. Without a doubt Paterno thinks he's bigger than the whole scandal, and he's doing this for selfish reasons. He wants to do what's right for the school, then he would indeed step down and not coach ever again.


Penn State should not allow Joe Paterno to retire on his terms - ESPN

Great article by J. Hill and good interview with LZ Granderson.

Do you really think Joe thinks much at all anymore? I mean, that whole scene in his yard last night was so bizarre. An asinine move by the fans, and when Joe came out and talked he sounded so out of it and detached. I'd say his statements to the media, and pretty much everything else is being dictated by his son at this point.

I don't think Joe thinks he's bigger than the scandal. I simply think he has absolutely zero idea how to handle something like this. I'm not making excuses for his lack of action when he found out about the abuses, I'm only talking about how he's acted since it all came out this week.

[SolidSnake84]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Joe Paterno's retirement was effective immediatley and he was not going to finish the season.

I think what should happen, is that Joe should be brought up on charges, and his name and reputation should basically be trashed because of this. They should take his name and face down from Penn State as the ultimate punishment, which still isn't enough for a guy who covered up a major sex scandal involving little kids for the better part of 15 years.

When the fallout is over, he should be completley blacklisted from college football and penn state. This makes me think of the Chris Benoit WWE situation where even though Benoit was in the hall of fame and all that, they removed all mention and memory of him in wake of his crime he committed...

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Joe Paterno's retirement was effective immediatley and he was not going to finish the season.

I think what should happen, is that Joe should be brought up on charges, and his name and reputation should basically be trashed because of this. They should take his name and face down from Penn State as the ultimate punishment, which still isn't enough for a guy who covered up a major sex scandal involving little kids for the better part of 15 years.

When the fallout is over, he should be completley blacklisted from college football and penn state. This makes me think of the Chris Benoit WWE situation where even though Benoit was in the hall of fame and all that, they removed all mention and memory of him in wake of his crime he committed...

I agree 100%

[SolidSnake84]

Update as of 2 minutes ago:

The Pennsylvania State Attorney General says that the state is not pursuing charges against Joe Paterno, however, they announced that he is facing charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, and violation of the state's Child Protective Services Law, in the upcoming lawsuit by the plaintiffs in the sexual abuse case. They are saying that Jail time for JoePa does remain a possibility if he is convicted on all counts..

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Update as of 2 minutes ago:

The Pennsylvania State Attorney General says that the state is not pursuing charges against Joe Paterno, however, they announced that he is facing charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, and violation of the state's Child Protective Services Law, in the upcoming lawsuit by the plaintiffs in the sexual abuse case. They are saying that Jail time for JoePa does remain a possibility if he is convicted on all counts..

It is impossible to believe this stuff is unfolding like this for JP and the Penn state program. It will be decimated.....
SO many screwed up lives because nobody would report this creep years ago.....just wow.

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NC Skins letter worked. JoePa fired as Penn State head coach. Def. Coord. Tom Bradley named interim head coach.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

NC Skins letter worked. JoePa fired as Penn State head coach. Def. Coord. Tom Bradley named interim head coach.

Good. When Paterno said in his statement that the Board of Trustees should “not spend a single minute discussing my status” I was pretty appalled. I mean that's a slap in the face to the Board. And what right does he have? If I was in his situation I couldn't go to my bosses and say "You know what, don't worry about me. I'm just going to go ahead and do my thing and leave when I'm ready to leave" Just doesn't and shouldn't work that way.

Marcellus Wiley said it best. How could the NCAA not allow Dez Bryant to play another game because he had dinner with Deion Sanders yet Joe Paterno could keep coaching until he decides he doesn't want to anymore.

Sorry, a legacy is ruined, especially so late in his life (kind of reminds me a bit of Helen Thomas' situation), but he had 10 years to do something about it. And he didn't. So he ruined his own legacy

And Sandusky. I mean it totally baffles me how a grown adult could even think of doing the things he did to those kids. And then to actually do them. I feel terrible for those poor kids. The grand jury report is unfortunately very graphic. And if you're mad about the situation without reading it, you'd be livid if you did