Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NM Redskin

very impressed with this guy, he should be great in the locker room

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

very impressed with this guy, he should be great in the locker room

What is the FFCA?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

very impressed with this guy, he should be great in the locker room

I actually loved the answer he gave to how he prepared for Georgia after Gruden told him the UGA DC was calling Saban asking him what he did to stop Cousins after which Cousins turned around and said he called Kellen Moore who "had lit up the Bulldogs earlier in the year" to get advice. Actually brought a tear of joy to my eye.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I actually loved the answer he gave to how he prepared for Georgia after Gruden told him the UGA DC was calling Saban asking him what he did to stop Cousins after which Cousins turned around and said he called Kellen Moore who "had lit up the Bulldogs earlier in the year" to get advice. Actually brought a tear of joy to my eye.

Yeah great answer.

You could tell Gruden really likes this kid.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I actually loved the answer he gave to how he prepared for Georgia after Gruden told him the UGA DC was calling Saban asking him what he did to stop Cousins after which Cousins turned around and said he called Kellen Moore who "had lit up the Bulldogs earlier in the year" to get advice. Actually brought a tear of joy to my eye.

So, I guess we can assume he will be a willing apprentice to the RGIII school of quarterbacking.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

So, I guess we can assume he will be a willing apprentice to the RGIII school of quarterbacking.

Well he believes he's suppose to be here so yes.

“I’m going to work as hard as I can,” Cousins said. “There are a lot of things I can’t control, like where I get drafted. I’m just excited to be part of the NFL. At the end of the day, I believe God is in control of my future, and this is where I believe he wants me at this time.”

[WillH]

Awesome move. I know we have other more immediate needs, but the value of QB these days, as we are all well aware, is very inflated. With a QB in the 4th, especially one with Cousins' upside, you have a low-risk-high-reward investment.

A 4th round pick is almost always a backup at first at any position. While, at another position, like say G or T, you may have a potential starter in a few years, with a QB you may get not only a solid backup at a key position, but also a potential bargaining chip worth a whole lot more than this years 4th rd.

Beside, we didn't have a true NFL quality backup.

Also (knocking on wood as I type this), it is insurance for our all-in trade for RG3, and if things don't play out as we hope, we don't necessarily have to start from scratch 3 years from now.

[#56fanatic]

I am completely shocked by the pick. knowing the other glaring needs. I understand having to "make" the pick because he was there, but honestly you invest all the picks to move up to get RGIII, now seems like you are sending a message that just in case RGIII struggles. which in my mind may cause a little undue pressure or stress on RGIII. I know backups are very important, but i just dont get the pick.

[Daseal]

I like it. Has some talent and could be a long-term backup. I get nervous about RG3's health (for no real reason, just worrying) and like having a competent backup.

[Alvin Walton]

Excellent pick.
We now have the best QB roster since Jurgensen/Kilmer.

[vallin21]

Drafting Cousins makes sense in 3 ways...

1) He'll make RG3 a better player just by him being on the roster; Cousins is an overachiever, who thrives on being the "underdog." Remember, Cousins beat out Nick Foles and made him transfer to Arizona.

2) Good insurance in case RG3 gets injured, plays poorly, or has an unforseen tragedy/issue; Some who oppose this move will say "this will ignite a QB controversy", which I disagree with... The only person in control of whether there is ever a controversy is RG3. If he plays well consistently there won't be calls for Cousins to play.

3) The potential to aquire a high draft pick for Cousins in 2-3 years; I hope I'm wrong but RG3 takes alot of big hits, and can hold onto the ball a slight second to long, leaving him vulnerable to taking a big hit, which makes me wonder if he can play all 16 games. The durability concerns aren't so much to do with him running, but that as mentioned, he'll hold onto the ball longer than he should.

Lastly, and this is pure speculation, I think Shanny drafted Cousins to give him an extra 1-2 years, in case RG3 (god forbid) doesn't work out, he'll still have Cousins to develop; and that selecting Cousins will save him from being fired if RG3 isn't the QB we think he is. My guess is the FO wanted to draft another potential starting QB in case RG3 (I hope not) isn't a franchise QB.

[Lotus]

I feel meh about the Cousins pick. Don't misunderstand - I think a QB housecleaning is a good idea so I don't mind picking up another young QB.

To me Cousins is like Grossman Jr. - his accuracy is sometimes very erratic and his decision-making is often erratic, too. I don't see him developing into much of anything and I certainly don't see him as future trade bait of any real value.

I might have used the pick on someone else like Lindley or, more likely, have made sure to pick up someone like Kellen Moore as a UDFA.

[NYCSkin]

I really don't like this pick.

Ernie Accorsi didn't give up the ranch to get Eli and then turn around and draft Luke McCown in the 4th round as some sort of hedge.

Cousins may be a decent player but Griffin is, strictly based on how much the Skins gave up for him, clearly THE guy that Shanahan wanted and should be afforded the chance to develop without another young drafted QB around. It's an inconsistent message to not only Griffin but to the team and the fans.

If Cousins is some sort of a Griffin injury hedge--well then Rex or some other veteran could have done that role. And we would have applied the pick towards a greater need.

If Shanahan really wanted another young Qb to develop--best to not waste a pick and get an undrafted free agent. That would have not only saved a pick but also not created any drama vis-a-vis Griffin.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by NYCSkin

I really don't like this pick.

Ernie Accorsi didn't give up the ranch to get Eli and then turn around and draft Luke McCown in the 4th round as some sort of hedge.

Cousins may be a decent player but Griffin is, strictly based on how much the Skins gave up for him, clearly THE guy that Shanahan wanted and should be afforded the chance to develop without another young drafted QB around. It's an inconsistent message to not only Griffin but to the team and the fans.

If Cousins is some sort of a Griffin injury hedge--well then Rex or some other veteran could have done that role. And we would have applied the pick towards a greater need.

If Shanahan really wanted another young Qb to develop--best to not waste a pick and get an undrafted free agent. That would have not only saved a pick but also not created any drama vis-a-vis Griffin.

The Giants had Kurt Warner be the backup. Hence, drafting a backup was not needed as much.

UDFA QBs are more than likely hopeless, with the a low ceiling in the case they don't bust.

The plan is obvious. Cousins is a "shadow" first round pick to be. Let him look pretty in preseason, and some QB-starved team would pay big assets to get him. That's the plan. That's far more than a sleeper pick at any other position would net.

And if Cousins has good character and a leader, then that further stablizes the locker room because you've got two QBs to set an example about preparation and putting in the work.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by NYCSkin

I really don't like this pick.

Ernie Accorsi didn't give up the ranch to get Eli and then turn around and draft Luke McCown in the 4th round as some sort of hedge.

Cousins may be a decent player but Griffin is, strictly based on how much the Skins gave up for him, clearly THE guy that Shanahan wanted and should be afforded the chance to develop without another young drafted QB around. It's an inconsistent message to not only Griffin but to the team and the fans.

If Cousins is some sort of a Griffin injury hedge--well then Rex or some other veteran could have done that role. And we would have applied the pick towards a greater need.

If Shanahan really wanted another young Qb to develop--best to not waste a pick and get an undrafted free agent. That would have not only saved a pick but also not created any drama vis-a-vis Griffin.

Rex and the now departed Beck suck monkey balls!!!!!! Cousins isn't RG III, but he would be a dependable backup, and could wins some games for us in the future if need be. Beck just sucks ass, who came from a BYU team that at the time had come down a notch or two in terms of being a national power. Cousins was a very solid QB for a very good Spartan team, which plays in one of the premier NCAA football conferences. This move was probably part of the plan, which means Rex is probably out in a year or two.