Redskins vs Rams Postgame Thread

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Mike Pereira, the ref guy for the league, showed how when Fisher challenged the Stephen Jackson play that not only was the red flag a 15 yard penalty, since the challenge flag was thrown before the challenge was initiated upstairs the challenge is then disallowed and the call on the field must stand. The call was fumble and we got the ball. Instead the Rams kept the ball and kicked the field goal... we lost by 3 points...

I'm not sure that's part of the rule.. So even if a call is wrong, because the coach throws the flag the play doesn't get reviewed? Doesn't seem like the league would do that on what would have been an automatic review anyways. The 15 yard penalty would be for unsportsmanlike conduct for the review flag.

[Monkeydad]

Normally, I tend to blame the team for losses, even with a bad call because the team has already put itself in the position of one bad call losing the game...but that was THE WORST-OFFICIATED GAME I HAVE EVER WATCHED. All game long. It hurt both teams but we were definitely on the short end more often.

It was embarrassing. The NFL needs to do whatever they can to get the real refs back NOW. It's hurting their product more than anything else could.

With the bad refs combined with a dirty Rams team (Finnegan and Fisher), this game turned into a hockey game early on...fights, frustration...all fueled by the blatantly-bad and missed calls. These refs also seemed afraid to break anything up between the players.

The worst was that cheap shot on Fletcher, but he avenged it on the next play.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Normally, I tend to blame the team for losses, even with a bad call because the team has already put itself in the position of one bad call losing the game...but that was THE WORST-OFFICIATED GAME I HAVE EVER WATCHED. All game long. It hurt both teams but we were definitely on the short end more often.

It was embarrassing. The NFL needs to do whatever they can to get the real refs back NOW. It's hurting their product more than anything else could.

With the bad refs combined with a dirty Rams team (Finnegan and Fisher), this game turned into a hockey game early on...fights, frustration...all fueled by the blatantly-bad and missed calls. These refs also seemed afraid to break anything up between the players.

The worst was that cheap shot on Fletcher, but he avenged it on the next play.

Usually my motto is that good teams find a way to win despite officiating, but yesterday's game is completely different. Can't excuse how those officials lost control of the game.

[Gtothearry]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Mike Pereira, the ref guy for the league, showed how when Fisher challenged the Stephen Jackson play that not only was the red flag a 15 yard penalty, since the challenge flag was thrown before the challenge was initiated upstairs the challenge is then disallowed and the call on the field must stand. The call was fumble and we got the ball. Instead the Rams kept the ball and kicked the field goal... we lost by 3 points...

That is definitely true. What pissed me off more then anything was how many times a Ram player would push after the whistle, lay on a player for an excessive time,mouth off constantly or the 3-4 blows to the head.

The real refs would've stopped that early by throwing a flag each time. These non calls changed how the game was played from our side. They just missed the standard calls over and over again. Very frustrating game to watch...

[Monkeydad]

I said on here a while ago, but I had the feeling every game is going to be a shootout for us this year. It's going to come down to RGIII outscoring our own secondary all season long. I love our offense. 40 and 28 points scored...we haven't seen this kind of scoring for ages. However, we've given up 32 and 31 points too.

Yesterday doesn't damper my excitement about this year's team at all though. We will still be dramatically better than last year.

I'm more angry about yesterday's game than disappointed or worried about the team. They played with a fire I haven't seen from the Redskins before. They were definitely furious about the refs and getting sick of the Rams' dirty tactics and cheap shots that the refs were allowing. Morgan's outburst was inexcusable but it was just a result of 60 minutes of frustration...we were playing against the Rams and the refs. I love the passion that Shanahan coaches with. He sticks up for his guys, even got in the middle of a brawl on the sidelines once.

I said to my wife during the game, "Coach Gibbs would never have allowed his team to behave this way, but I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm glad to see them fighting and caring about the game for once."

Janoris Jenkins and Cortland Finnegan are nothing but instigators....they've pulled some crap two weeks in a row. Fisher is an enabler too.

[Gtothearry]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

So spot on with the Banks thing. Dude acts like every run he does is so close to breaking free, but that's hardly the case. Not even close to breaking any.

True, every time he gets a chance I'm saying please don't fumble. Plus, on the last punt he ran 30 yards across the field to end up in the same place he received it. I say put Moss back there....

[Gtothearry]

How did you all like the icing of the kicker that cost us 3 points?

[scowan]

^^^^^^
Agree with a lot of 44 goes 50 gut.

Euphoria after last week makes us all think the Skins are world beaters, when honestly they are still in rebuild mode with a lot of missing pieces talent-wise. I watched the 49-ers last night and they are a well balanced team all the way around. Well coached, great Defense, efficent offense, and smart playmakers on both sides of the ball. RG3 actually in my minded overcame some of this teams deficencies yesterday and they were one made kick from just tieing, and if the Rams got the ball back in OT would have probably lost anyway, because the skins couldn't stop them.

If changes are not made, Andy Dalton is going to throw for over 400 yards next week.

[NC_Skins]

Robert Griffin III must limit the number of hits he takes to be successful - ESPN

[stone]

I don't post on here very often but I have to tip my hat to London Fletcher. The man is a beast. He got bent in half and on the very next play just lays himself flat out and rips the ball out... Redskins recover. Absolutely amazing! HTTR!!!

[Kindoy]

Props to D-Hall for giving a damn yesterday, seemed like the only guy stepping up, defending and fighting for his teammates. Nice to see someone that cares and won't take shit from a bunch of punks. I didn't see him going out of his way to start trouble; seemed like he was the only one (including the refs) stepping in when his teammates were being pushed around.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Kindoy

Props to D-Hall for giving a damn yesterday, seemed like the only guy stepping up, defending and fighting for his teammates. Nice to see someone that cares and won't take shit from a bunch of punks. I didn't see him going out of his way to start trouble; seemed like he was the only one (including the refs) stepping in when his teammates were being pushed around.

I agree, D Hall and London were balling. Hey, pro bowl mvps dont grow on trees...

[Kindoy]

Jaws just gave every rookie quarterback an A rating on Sports Center except for RG3 who got a B (apparently for his interception).

I think that's a complete joke. The guy carried our team yesterday... if Jaws would've watched the game yesterday he would've seen that. It's clear to me he's being judged on a different grading scale than the other four already.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Kindoy

Jaws just gave every rookie quarterback an A rating on Sports Center except for RG3 who got a B (apparently for his interception).

I think that's a complete joke. The guy carried our team yesterday... if Jaws would've watched the game yesterday he would've seen that. It's clear to me he's being judged on a different grading scale than the other four already.

That's why I don't accept an expert's opinion before forming my own firsthand. And Jaworski is one of the most competent and most respected analyst out there.

[Gtothearry]

Originally Posted by Kindoy

Jaws just gave every rookie quarterback an A rating on Sports Center except for RG3 who got a B (apparently for his interception).

I think that's a complete joke. The guy carried our team yesterday... if Jaws would've watched the game yesterday he would've seen that. It's clear to me he's being judged on a different grading scale than the other four already.

Clearly, 3 td's and one Int! The guy clearly didn't watch the brilliance which is RGIII. Plus A. Robinson possibly dropped a 4th.