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Old 10-09-2012, 12:29 AM   #1
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Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

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Chris Russell and rich tandler have both been on espn980 and essentially said shanahan got rid of gano because he was openly religious and it put a lot of players off.
Too bad his god didn't answer his prayers about being a good consistent kicker. Guess he should have prayed harder.
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Old 10-09-2012, 05:12 AM   #2
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Chris Russell and rich tandler have both been on espn980 and essentially said shanahan got rid of gano because he was openly religious and it put a lot of players off.
That sounds like a fable. If it's true, then the Redskins front office is pretty stupid. If players don't like it, all they have to do is tell Gano to shut the hell up.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:02 AM   #3
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Chris Russell and rich tandler have both been on espn980 and essentially said shanahan got rid of gano because he was openly religious and it put a lot of players off.
That sounded a bit absurd, but I asked them this morning if they ever said anything like that or if it's even true. The answer "Never. 100% not true. Zero chance of that."
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:56 PM   #4
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Well thats not what Chris Said on ESPN980.

Check the ESPN980 Audio Vault - 10/7/2012 Chris Russell Post Game and start listening around the 6 minute mark.

Al Michaels: Would Shanahan bring him (Cundiff) back? Do you think he'd swallow his pride and..

Russell: No, i dont think he will, because i dont think Mike likes him very much

Al : Do you know why that is? What is it that he specifically doesnt like about him?

Chris: i know some things. Hes frustrated with his consistency... and then there's other elements to it that i'm not quite sure if that, you know, necessarily belongs in this forum, but you know - Graham is a very religious person and i've heard some things that that irked some people. So you know, there's something to that i beleive. I don't know that absolutely 100% for sure, and i dont want to accuse somebody of something, but that is what i was told.
Maybe I am wrong, but the quote you put here in no way equals your earlier statement

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Chris Russell and rich tandler have both been on espn980 and essentially said shanahan got rid of gano because he was openly religious and it put a lot of players off.
The actual airtime quote as you have it, says that Gano's inaccuracy was a primary source of their frustration and other factors may have made the decision more palatable. Your interpreted quote makes it sound like the openly religious issue was essentially why Shanahan got rid of Gano.

I don't see how the airtime quote you used in anyway equates to the statement you attributed to it.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:43 PM   #5
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Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

For the umpteenth time,why are you guys so high on Gano? Shanny says Gano outperformed Rackers in practice but I cant find final stats. Last article I could find that listed how many they made Rackers was 28-33 and Gano was 26-33 in training camp

Coach Mike Shanahan said Gano ''won the statistical battle in practice'' and that the 25-year-old kicker gets ''undue criticism'' because the blocks last season weren't the kicker's fault.
Rackers arrived with a strong pedigree. The 36-year-old kicker has played for the Cincinnati Bengals, Atlanta Falcons and Houston Texans over 12 seasons, and his 88.2 field goal percentage over the last three years is third best in the NFL over that span. The Redskins signed him as a free agent when he couldn't reach a new deal with the Texans.
Gano, who joined the Redskins late in 2009, has a percentage of 73.8 over the same time period, second-worst in the league.
He's also 5 for 8 on game-tying and game-winning field goals in the final two minutes of a game or in overtime, with all three misses coming from 47 yards or more.
Those are the kicks that really matter - according to the advice Gano received last week when he met Mark Moseley, the only kicker ever to win league MVP. Gano sat with the former Washington kicker's family at the Redskins Welcome Home Luncheon.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:45 PM   #6
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I'm not high on Gano at all. I cringe every time we have to kick a fg and I'm even holding my breath on pat's.
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He missed the call!!!!!
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Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

yes he needs to go
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And another kicker that couldn't beat out Gano lighting it up for texans
Graham stunk it up for us last yr
Has there ever been a kicker that left the skins and didn't get a job somewhere else?
Gano doesn't count


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Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

Cundiff shouldn't have even been on the airplane back home!!!
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Gano was near the bottom of the league in FG % the past couple of seasons, so there certainly was a reason to look for an upgrade. Unfortunately they didn't find it in Cundiff.
I agree with this. While its turned out horribly. I still think it was the right move at the time. Hard to predict that miss in the playoffs would give cub diff the yips.
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Chris Russell and rich tandler have both been on espn980 and essentially said shanahan got rid of gano because he was openly religious and it put a lot of players off.
Well that's a pretty shitty reason if that's true


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Old 10-08-2012, 11:25 PM   #13
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Well that's a pretty shitty reason if that's true


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I dunno. I can understand how being openly religious is a put off. I don't think I could be around someone who was preaching in my ear 24/7. Religious convictions should be a personal thing until the guys are "off the clock" i.e. not practicing, what not.

Nothing's wrong with embracing your religion and even talking about it with some of the guys on a one on one or friendly basis, but its another thing for it to be all you ever talk about/trying to convert.

Although in this situation, maybe it would'v been best for Shanahan to let that slide...
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I dunno. I can understand how being openly religious is a put off. I don't think I could be around someone who was preaching in my ear 24/7. Religious convictions should be a personal thing until the guys are "off the clock" i.e. not practicing, what not.

Nothing's wrong with embracing your religion and even talking about it with some of the guys on a one on one or friendly basis, but its another thing for it to be all you ever talk about/trying to convert.

Although in this situation, maybe it would'v been best for Shanahan to let that slide...
Dude should have been cut for his kicking,not religion
Isnt RG3 openly religous? Joe Gibbs?
Everybody hated Gibbs because he was openly religous{sarcasm}
Shanny should be fired for being openly stupid
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Dude should have been cut for his kicking,not religion
Isnt RG3 openly religous? Joe Gibbs?
Everybody hated Gibbs because he was openly religous{sarcasm}
Shanny should be fired for being openly stupid
Openly to me means, openly preaching it. If you're at work, you work. It's like when Victoria Jackson was on SNL telling everyone they were sinners and going to hell. You're there to tell jokes, tell jokes.

You're there to kick the ball, kick the ball.
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