Falcons at Redskins Post Game Thoughts

[punch it in]

I just remember the huge playbook saunders had. He was like a mad scientist. Was it ramsey or jc at that time. I cant remember?


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[punch it in]

Chester i should have excluded. I give morris a ton of credit. He gets holes but man he could cut diamonds with those moves. I believe helu was tagged as a bit of an injury prone / couldnt carry a full load guy when he came into the league though.


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[CultBrennan59]

Likes and Dislikes

Likes:

- How competitive we were today
- Not allowing Julio and Roddy to huge numbers
- Kerrigan
- Cofield getting a sack and knocking down the ball when he didn't get there; Hands up!
- Alfred Morris
- Santana's New Role
- Fred Davis doing good
- Our OL play
- Our punting game
- Getting to see Kirk Cousins

Dislikes:

- Getting to see Kirk Cousins
- Not getting to Matt Ryan/Giving him lots of time to pass/allowing him to step up
- Our pass defense in the second half (particularly the 4th quarter)
- Josh Wilson; Before the game John Lynch interviewed Matt Ryan and the WRs and said do you all know where you want to attack the Skins today? They all replied 'Wherever Josh Wilson is, where going to that guy whose on him'. Translation= He sucks. Then I went back and remembered reading on this board that Josh Wilson was playing at one of the highest levels in the league according to ProFootballFocus.com. If teams are specifically going after a guy, that means he isn't good. And if that player who isn't good is considered the best player in our secondary and has a reliable stat sight saying that he's good, then that right there really shows that our secondary is awful. At least thats how I see it (and Josh was tested the whole game and ultimately did poorly, allowing guys to get first downs on him and stiff arm him constantly)
- Billy Cundiff; like I said earlier today, when a kicker has no confidence, he's got to go. His body language said it all to me today. He had to make both kicks today; he missed the easy one, 31 yards, so he's got to go. Josh Brown, Neil Rackers, Kris Brown, Gano come and try out.
- The DL got zero push or pressure today. 1 sack the whole game. All we did was edge rush and when you edge rush and get 0 pressure up the middle, all the QB has to do is step up in the pocket, like I mentioned above.
- Pierre Garcon. We are undefeated in games which he scores a TD. I think he's a great player. I Want to think he's going to be a great signing and worth the money. But today's performance of dropping passes was head pounding.
- RG3 getting hurt.
- The tackling on the defense
- The fact that Orakpo may not be on this team next year, according to SS. I think its a dumb move if we really do trade him; especially if it isn't a first.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Likes and Dislikes

Likes:

- How competitive we were today
- Not allowing Julio and Roddy to huge numbers
- Kerrigan
- Cofield getting a sack and knocking down the ball when he didn't get there; Hands up!
- Alfred Morris
- Santana's New Role
- Fred Davis doing good
- Our OL play
- Our punting game
- Getting to see Kirk Cousins

Dislikes:

- Getting to see Kirk Cousins
- Not getting to Matt Ryan/Giving him lots of time to pass/allowing him to step up
- Our pass defense in the second half (particularly the 4th quarter)
- Josh Wilson; Before the game John Lynch interviewed Matt Ryan and the WRs and said do you all know where you want to attack the Skins today? They all replied 'Wherever Josh Wilson is, where going to that guy whose on him'. Translation= He sucks. Then I went back and remembered reading on this board that Josh Wilson was playing at one of the highest levels in the league according to ProFootballFocus.com. If teams are specifically going after a guy, that means he isn't good. And if that player who isn't good is considered the best player in our secondary and has a reliable stat sight saying that he's good, then that right there really shows that our secondary is awful. At least thats how I see it (and Josh was tested the whole game and ultimately did poorly, allowing guys to get first downs on him and stiff arm him constantly)
- Billy Cundiff; like I said earlier today, when a kicker has no confidence, he's got to go. His body language said it all to me today. He had to make both kicks today; he missed the easy one, 31 yards, so he's got to go. Josh Brown, Neil Rackers, Kris Brown, Gano come and try out.
- The DL got zero push or pressure today. 1 sack the whole game. All we did was edge rush and when you edge rush and get 0 pressure up the middle, all the QB has to do is step up in the pocket, like I mentioned above.
- Pierre Garcon. We are undefeated in games which he scores a TD. I think he's a great player. I Want to think he's going to be a great signing and worth the money. But today's performance of dropping passes was head pounding.
- RG3 getting hurt.
- The tackling on the defense
- The fact that Orakpo may not be on this team next year, according to SS. I think its a dumb move if we really do trade him; especially if it isn't a first.

I found that interesting that they'd go after Wilson before Hall. But letting Ryan sit back there with no pressure didn't help the situation. And it's not like Atlanta has the 1991 Redskin o-line either.

[REDSKINS4ever]

The Redskins fought hard in this one. The defense has face five great QBs so far this season. We knew that going in to this game the game would be close. While I'm a bit down on the starting corners, I felt the defense play overall played a great game.

[MTK]

Falcons 24, Redskins 17: Ten Observations | WashingtonExaminer.com

[MTK]

RG3 Report: Falcons 24, Redskins 17 | WashingtonExaminer.com

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

RG3 Report: Falcons 24, Redskins 17 | WashingtonExaminer.com

4.This is his second concussion in less than a year. Griffin suffered a concussion last November while at Baylor trying to get away from a pass rush. He went to slide, took a forearm to the head and his head bounced on the turf.

[skinsguy]

My thoughts on this game, after having a night to sleep on it, are as follows:

I think it's so ironic that a game in which the Shanahans were trying to protect RGIII the most is when he gets knocked out of the game with a concussion. However, that was all on RGIII. If he had just thrown the ball away, lived to played another series, the 'skins probably would have had a great chance to have beaten the Falcons. I mean, who knows? I have so much confidence in RGIII, that I never think the 'skins are out of a ballgame until the time reads 00:00.

I appreciate the fact the Mike & Kyle were calling an offense to protect their QB more. I just hate the fact that Griffin's receivers weren't helping him a lot with dropped passes and so forth, but there's only so much one man can do! But, besides that, it seems to me that the more you call a "safe" game in terms of protecting RGIII, the less potent the offense seems, and it also seems to take away a dimension of RGIII's game. But nevertheless, you do have to protect your investment.

In the near future, RGIII will learn how to protect himself better, while being a danger with his legs. Hopefully that will come sooner than the next hit that could be a season ender. Anyways, there HAS to be a happy medium, because we're going to need the offense to utilize every skill RGIII has if this season's version of the Redskins are going to end at or above .500.

The defense played very well, Haslett had them ready. They did pretty much everything they needed to do to help this team beat the Falcons. Unfortunately, the offense took a bad time to have a scoring drought, but you do kind of expect a harder time scoring against a well polished team like the Atlanta Falcons. Still, if the offense was scoring like they did in previous games, the Redskins could have very easily beat the Falcons, because the 'skins defense was playing pretty solid.

HOWEVER, the defense couldn't pressure Matt Ryan enough, and eventually the defense couldn't hold up for all four quarters. Couple that with RGIII getting knocked out of the game, and I figured the team was done for at that point.

So, moving forward, I think Mike & Kyle will continue to keep RGIII safe, but that might be at an expense of a few games. After five games, I'm thinking this roster is young and definitely talented in a few areas, but still just not quite good enough. We have great players in RGIII and Alfred Morris on offense, and guys like London Fletcher, Ryan Kerrigan, and Perry Riley on defense. But, I don't think it's going to be quite enough. Still, plenty of games ahead of us, but I now see how huge it was to lose Brian Orakpo, and even Adam Carriker. If the defensive line isn't getting to the QB early and often, then the 'skins only option is to win in shoot out games - and you can't do that if RGIII is on the sidelines.

I just hope for the Shanahan's sake that they can get this thing figured out in two more seasons, because everybody's (including my) evaluation starts this season, and this team HAS to start figuring it out on the field.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

My thoughts on this game, after having a night to sleep on it, are as follows:

I think it's so ironic that a game in which the Shanahans were trying to protect RGIII the most is when he gets knocked out of the game with a concussion. However, that was all on RGIII. If he had just thrown the ball away, lived to played another series, the 'skins probably would have had a great chance to have beaten the Falcons. I mean, who knows? I have so much confidence in RGIII, that I never think the 'skins are out of a ballgame until the time reads 00:00.

I appreciate the fact the Mike & Kyle were calling an offense to protect their QB more. I just hate the fact that Griffin's receivers weren't helping him a lot with dropped passes and so forth, but there's only so much one man can do! But, besides that, it seems to me that the more you call a "safe" game in terms of protecting RGIII, the less potent the offense seems, and it also seems to take away a dimension of RGIII's game. But nevertheless, you do have to protect your investment.

In the near future, RGIII will learn how to protect himself better, while being a danger with his legs. Hopefully that will come sooner than the next hit that could be a season ender. Anyways, there HAS to be a happy medium, because we're going to need the offense to utilize every skill RGIII has if this season's version of the Redskins are going to end at or above .500.

The defense played very well, Haslett had them ready. They did pretty much everything they needed to do to help this team beat the Falcons. Unfortunately, the offense took a bad time to have a scoring drought, but you do kind of expect a harder time scoring against a well polished team like the Atlanta Falcons. Still, if the offense was scoring like they did in previous games, the Redskins could have very easily beat the Falcons, because the 'skins defense was playing pretty solid.

HOWEVER, the defense couldn't pressure Matt Ryan enough, and eventually the defense couldn't hold up for all four quarters. Couple that with RGIII getting knocked out of the game, and I figured the team was done for at that point.

So, moving forward, I think Mike & Kyle will continue to keep RGIII safe, but that might be at an expense of a few games. After five games, I'm thinking this roster is young and definitely talented in a few areas, but still just not quite good enough. We have great players in RGIII and Alfred Morris on offense, and guys like London Fletcher, Ryan Kerrigan, and Perry Riley on defense. But, I don't think it's going to be quite enough. Still, plenty of games ahead of us, but I now see how huge it was to lose Brian Orakpo, and even Adam Carriker. If the defensive line isn't getting to the QB early and often, then the 'skins only option is to win in shoot out games - and you can't do that if RGIII is on the sidelines.

I just hope for the Shanahan's sake that they can get this thing figured out in two more seasons, because everybody's (including my) evaluation starts this season, and this team HAS to start figuring it out on the field.

The pass rush was so bad I got up to get a beer at the begining of a Falcons play and Matt was still in the pocket when I got back with my beer.

[MTK]

Still way too early to close the book on Garcon. He's still working his way back from injury. He needs to start stepping it up though, no doubt. Although if Griffin hits him in stride on that slant and he walks in for a TD, people might be singing a slightly different tune today. Just sayin'.

We needed to add playmakers for Griffin, and Gaffney clearly did not fit that description. Let's move on.

[MTK]

Can we stop with this baloney about RG3 being handcuffed or held back? Look at the numbers he's putting up along with the entire offense. No, it's not perfect and we have plenty of room for improvement, but this notion that he's being handcuffed just sounds absurd.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Can we stop with this baloney about RG3 being handcuffed or held back? Look at the numbers he's putting up along with the entire offense. No, it's not perfect and we have plenty of room for improvement, but this notion that he's being handcuffed just sounds absurd.

I think he is. Let the kid throw it down field a little more. Why did we bring in Garcon and Morgan? To let them catch slants and wr screens? Too much of the offense is 10 yards and in and it's not going to work against the better teams. Cousins comes in and he hits Moss over the top of the defense and he's wide open.

Also why don't they run the hurry up offense? This is what RG3 did in college. He's comfortable with it as he marched the team down the field against Tampa.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think he is. Let the kid throw it down field a little more. Why did we bring in Garcon and Morgan? To let them catch slants and wr screens? Too much of the offense is 10 yards and in and it's not going to work against the better teams. Cousins comes in and he hits Moss over the top of the defense and he's wide open.

Also why don't they run the hurry up offense? This is what RG3 did in college. He's comfortable with it as he marched the team down the field against Tampa.

I don't think he is handcuffed because of his inexperience, He is handcuffed because the line sucks and they need to get rid of the ball in 3 seconds or less.
They don't want RG3 to sit back in the pocket and get destroyed. All plays are quick plays.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

In addition to every team in the NFL being beatable (with the exception of the 49ers, DAMN!) at least with the Skins we can enjoy the "Any Given Sunday" mantra. We're competitive in every game and we're continuing to get better.

I think what's frustrating a lot of people is we haven't put together a complete game yet. If offense and defense do their jobs, special teams doesn't. Just stuff like that. If RG3 comes back, we'll have another tough test on our hands, but we match up pretty well with the Vikings.