Week 6 Washington Redskins vs Minnesota Vikings Pregame Thread

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by The Goat

It makes me a little nervous he's playing, but I tend to think it wasn't really a concussion in the first place anyway.

So, let me make sure I am clear on your position. You don't feel comfortable that he is playing, although an independent doctor says it's ok, AND you don't really believe it was a concussion even though an independent doctor says it was.

Got it.

My dad treats doctors EXACTLY the same way, so I know where you are coming from. D*** med schools don't teach nobody nothing nohow.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

So, let me make sure I am clear on your position. You don't feel comfortable that he is playing, although an independent doctor says it's ok, AND you don't really believe it was a concussion even though an independent doctor says it was.

Got it.

My dad treats doctors EXACTLY the same way, so I know where you are coming from. D*** med schools don't teach nobody nothing nohow.

Not trying to confuse the issue I promise. If RG3 suffered a concussion I really don't think he should play, but given he's not showing any of the signs it doesn't sound like it was a concussion to begin with. You hear the term mild concussion, but my doc said that was bologna i.e. if you have bruising/swelling to the brain it's a concussion and the dangers of another impact too soon are really high.

My question is to those of you who had/thought you had concussions, what were your symptoms. I don't remember the first one very well because I was eight or so. Just that I couldn't walk for a few days from dizziness and nauseau. The 2nd one at age 29 was several days of nauseau, fogginess and generally not feeling like my feet were under me. I guess what I'm getting at is with a real concussion you're not going to be able to do much. I think some people take a shot to the head and feel a little dazed, then call it a concussion. They're worlds apart.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Not trying to confuse the issue I promise. If RG3 suffered a concussion I really don't think he should play, but given he's not showing any of the signs it doesn't sound like it was a concussion to begin with. You hear the term mild concussion, but my doc said that was bologna i.e. if you have bruising/swelling to the brain it's a concussion and the dangers of another impact too soon are really high.

My question is to those of you who had/thought you had concussions, what were your symptoms. I don't remember the first one very well because I was eight or so. Just that I couldn't walk for a few days from dizziness and nauseau. The 2nd one at age 29 was several days of nauseau, fogginess and generally not feeling like my feet were under me. I guess what I'm getting at is with a real concussion you're not going to be able to do much. I think some people take a shot to the head and feel a little dazed, then call it a concussion. They're worlds apart.

I would see a new Doc. A simple google search shows there are multiple grades to concussions (and multiple ways to classify them) the least severe causing disorientation and few or quickly resolved post-concussive problems. The more severe causing serious post-concussive symptoms.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I would see a new Doc. A simple google search shows there are multiple grades to concussions (and multiple ways to classify them) the least severe causing disorientation and few or quickly resolved post-concussive problems. The more severe causing serious post-concussive symptoms.

Doesn't look like you read my post, which addressed the risk of further trauma (as in shots to the head) after a concussion. What you raised is a whole nuther topic i.e. are the the long term effects different for severe vs "mild" concussions. Again, I can only repeat what the doc said. Brain swelling/bruising is a concussion, and even after two (real) concussions there's evidence of causality for deteriorating brain function later in life.

I have no idea why he would lie to me but you of course are free to believe what you like.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by The Goat

It makes me a little nervous he's playing, but I tend to think it wasn't really a concussion in the first place anyway.

So what's your diagnosis or do you think he was benched for Cousins?

Bottom line is if the medical protocol is followed and he passes, there is no reason not to play him. Not to be callous but he knows the sport he is playing and the inherent risk involved.

As for the game itself, I've got a decent feeling about this one. We need to come out and get the passing game going. Minnesota is very tough against the run so I'm not sure we can ride Morris early and hope to get the passing game off of that. I expect the read option to be completely scrapped this week since they can probably prepare best for it with Joe Webb and Harvin playing the RG3 role in practice.

We have to finish in the 4th quarter but I think we pull this one out 27-17.

[MTK]

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[That Guy]

just leave it to rgiii and don't push him to decide one way or the other.

looks to me like he'll be out there, and as long as he's okay with it (since, you know, he's the one that's going to live with it post football), i'm okay with it.

it's kind of a non-story as far as the "should he play" stuff... we don't have the results, we're not making the decisions, and i'd assume most of us aren't crunching concussion study data or getting medical degrees in our spare time.

[skinsfaninok]

Just watch the show doctors

[Meks]

I too will be nervous for RG3 this week... nervous to lose him... i watched sidney crosby come back.too early after a blow.to the head and suffer another and it took him MAD LONG to return amd still.ismt.back to 100% .... people are just worried, not trying to play "armchair neurologists " ...

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Meks

I too will be nervous for RG3 this week... nervous to lose him... i watched sidney crosby come back.too early after a blow.to the head and suffer another and it took him MAD LONG to return amd still.ismt.back to 100% .... people are just worried, not trying to play "armchair neurologists " ...

Ahhh words of wisdom...much admired.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Meks

I too will be nervous for RG3 this week... nervous to lose him... i watched sidney crosby come back.too early after a blow.to the head and suffer another and it took him MAD LONG to return amd still.ismt.back to 100% .... people are just worried, not trying to play "armchair neurologists " ...

If he's given the green light to play, our worries shouldn't be any more significant than they would be on any Sunday.

My issue is with those convinced the team is doing the wrong thing by playing him. #1 he has be be cleared by an independent doctor, and #2 why would Shanahan be more qualified to make that decision vs. a doctor's opinion?

Maybe you're not playing armchair neuro, but there are some people that clearly are.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If he's given the green light to play, our worries shouldn't be any more significant than they would be on any Sunday.

My issue is with those convinced the team is doing the wrong thing by playing him. #1 he has be be cleared by an independent doctor, and #2 why would Shanahan be more qualified to make that decision vs. a doctor's opinion?

Maybe you're not playing armchair neuro, but there are some people that clearly are.

Griff is not yet cleared for Gameday. He is only cleared to practice without contact. Where did you hear he was cleared to play?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Griff is not yet cleared for Gameday. He is only cleared to practice without contact. Where did you hear he was cleared to play?

I didn't say he was cleared. I said if.

[SmootSmack]

I understand the reservation as a fan to throw RG3 back out there but how do you decide when it's right to play him if you're not going to by what the doctors say?

What if Shanahan decides to sit him this week and then next goes back to the doctors and asks "is it ok to play him this week?" Then the doctors say "well yeah, he could have played last week" Then we sit him again and go through the same cycle each week

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I understand the reservation as a fan to throw RG3 back out there but how do you decide when it's right to play him if you're not going to by what the doctors say?

What if Shanahan decides to sit him this week and then next goes back to the doctors and asks "is it ok to play him this week?" Then the doctors say "well yeah, he could have played last week" Then we sit him again and go through the same cycle each week

Why do I suddenly have that picture of T.O. crying about his Romo in my head?