Great news!

[Gmanc711]

Sweet. Lets be full boar for Cini this weekend.

[monk81]

I'm so glad to hear this news.......

If the preseason game tells us anything....we really need Rogers ........And a healthy Arrington will provide explosiveness and help to improve our defense.......

[BigSKINBauer]

i'll be at steelers game, hope they are ready.

[That Guy]

someone pointed out on dan patrick (sportstalk 980) that we didn't want to give smoot more money in bonuses than springs, then we turn around and pay an unproven rookie 11mill (which iss more than 10mill springs got) without seeing him play a game.

I know he's talented, but still, i'm not sure letting ssmoot go was the best idea.

[NoviSkins]

Honestlty...was Smoot HAT good...he had Green, Bailey and Springs next to him his entire career. I'm pretty confident Rogers can match(or surpass) his productivity.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by That Guy

someone pointed out on dan patrick (sportstalk 980) that we didn't want to give smoot more money in bonuses than springs, then we turn around and pay an unproven rookie 11mill (which iss more than 10mill springs got) without seeing him play a game.

I know he's talented, but still, i'm not sure letting ssmoot go was the best idea.

The pick would have gotten a bonus in that range regardless of his position - comparing Rogers' contract to Smoot's isn't fair/

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

The pick would have gotten a bonus in that range regardless of his position - comparing Rogers' contract to Smoot's isn't fair/

it is fair though, cause we lost one cb and got another and it cost more to replace smoot than it would to keep him.

rodgers is ssupposed to be better, but there's always the off chance of a bust and either way, it'll take time to get him ready.

and no i don't think smoot was the best corner ever noviskin, but he was a known and proven quantity and he's a lot better than walt harris, who's going to be his temporary replacement till rodgers is ready and it would have alleviated our need to spend a top 10 pick on something we could have already had

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by That Guy

it is fair though, cause we lost one cb and got another and it cost more to replace smoot than it would to keep him.

rodgers is ssupposed to be better, but there's always the off chance of a bust and either way, it'll take time to get him ready.

and no i don't think smoot was the best corner ever noviskin, but he was a known and proven quantity and he's a lot better than walt harris, who's going to be his temporary replacement till rodgers is ready and it would have alleviated our need to spend a top 10 pick on something we could have already had

OK, in your scenario, we'd have spent $11 million on Smoot's bonus, all would be well, and we'd have drafted someone else - Mike Williams, DeMarcus Ware - who knows.
That person would be in line for the same $11 million bonus we gave Rogers. Our cap isn't so healthy that we can make signing of that magnitude without further paring of the roster. I think you may be underestimating Harris as well, who started for six years in Chicago and two in Indy, and only played nickel on the cheap last year because he was recovering from injury. He played all 16 games for us last year as well - something neither Springs nor Smoot can claim.

[mooby]

by the time it took you to read through this thread you could've saved 15% on your car insurance.

[BigSKINBauer]

dude we can compare it because we could have traded that pick or we could have not traded 3 picks for Campbell, we could have just picked him with our number 9
but i am confused don't we pay springs like 30 mil 6 years, while usatoday says we gave Rogers $17.45 5 years, i mean the bonus is just that a bonus. in the long run don't we save having Rogers?

[That Guy]

it depends on the time frame you base the savings on and you do end up with an extra player with the pick which would also help the team more (though not monetarily).

In the long run, rookies save money, but they're also unproven in the nfl, and in case of busts you lose time and money. (these last two drafts seemed to have gone well as far as picking talent with the few picks we've had though).

[MTK]

Personally I'm done with crying about who's not here.

The team made Smoot a fair offer, he got more elsewhere, more power to him.

Rogers is a more physical CB anyway and appears to be a better fit in this defense.

Let's wait and see how things play out. He certainly has a great attitude and is itching to get on the field at any cost, much like Smoot.

[manicd]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Personally I'm done with crying about who's not here.

The team made Smoot a fair offer, he got more elsewhere, more power to him.

Rogers is a more physical CB anyway and appears to be a better fit in this defense.

Let's wait and see how things play out. He certainly has a great attitude and is itching to get on the field at any cost, much like Smoot.

"A better fit for this defense" is the operative phrase. Smoot is a good cover guy, but Williams wants guys that can stuff the run and crush the QB. Rogers will probably be more suited to do that. Also, look at Trotter. He sucked for us, Williams let him go. But he was good with the Eagles. Why? The system. And look how we did at MLB last year. Pretty good. Williams knows who he wants for "HIS" defense, and has proven nearly infalible on his decisions regarding personell. If Williams is fine with losing Smoot, as well as Pierce, I can't understand why we can't trust that after what he has proven. Also, I can see why he didn't want Trotter. After seeing him interviewed, I realized this was not a card carrying member of MENSA by any stretch. He is very one dimensional. Williams likes brains and speed at the MLB position.

[davy]

LaVar Arrington stretched his leg by pushing against the goal post padding, gingerly handled his first 1-on-1 blocking drill, appeared to limp slightly at times and took part in only a couple of plays during the 9-on-9 drills.

Doesn't sound too good.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by davy

LaVar Arrington stretched his leg by pushing against the goal post padding, gingerly handled his first 1-on-1 blocking drill, appeared to limp slightly at times and took part in only a couple of plays during the 9-on-9 drills.

Doesn't sound too good.

They're going to bring him along slowly, it's his first day back I wouldn't expect him to be going 100 mph just yet.