I'm Going On INDY Radio To Discuss Luck vs RGIII!

[rbanerjee23]

I actually don't think it is that close -- to Smoot's point, a great QB makes those around him better. Logan Paulsen is a third string TE w/o RG3, Pierre Garcon was always a #2 but with RG3, is playing like a #1. Santana has played surprisingly well b/c of RG3. On top of that, the whole, "RG3 has Alfred Morris" argument doesn't really hold as much water either. Morris is a beast but when a linebacker has to forever spy your quarterback b/c of the play-action bootleg, it makes running the ball much easier.

As for the Andrew Luck has to throw more passes -- that still doesn't work b/c in terms of Passer Rating, QBR, Yards per Attempt etc. and all other metrics of efficiency, RG3 is ahead by a comfortable margin.

[12thMan]

FWIW, I don't like QBR. Kaepernick is two slots ahead of RG in total QBR. No thanks.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah I don't buy that thinking, because the Colts really had one bad year. They haven't been a franchise mired in mediocrity.

THANK YOU!

It drives me crazy when I hear how Luck "brought the Colts back from the dead" yada yada yada.

Here's the history of the Colts:

- Sucked ass after Unitas.
- Their years of incompetence left them with a high draft pick to get Peyton.
- They rode the hall of famer to 11 playoff appearances in 12 years. They won 8 division titles in that time.
- When their star goes down for one year how does the storied franchise respond?? 2-14.
- Their incompetence left them with a high draft pick to get Luck.

Wash rinse repeat.

Ask Colt fans if they feel GUILTY for having Peyton for 12 years, then getting Luck for the next decade. All the Colts know how to do is suck, and draft HOF QBs. You can quote me.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

THANK YOU!

It drives me crazy when I hear how Luck "brought the Colts back from the dead" yada yada yada.

Here's the history of the Colts:

- Sucked ass after Unitas.
- Their years of incompetence left them with a high draft pick to get Peyton.
- They rode the hall of famer to 11 playoff appearances in 12 years. They won 8 division titles in that time.
- When their star goes down for one year how does the storied franchise respond?? 2-14.
- Their incompetence left them with a high draft pick to get Luck.

Wash rinse repeat.

Ask Colt fans if they feel GUILTY for having Peyton for 12 years, then getting Luck for the next decade. All the Colts know how to do is suck, and draft HOF QBs. You can quote me.

Perfect post; here is your defense. If I was them I would break out how bad last year was.....their offense was much worse than the Skins; above is how u counter it -"pfft one bleeping year of bad vs 20 year, two decades of complete inccompetence"

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

THANK YOU!

It drives me crazy when I hear how Luck "brought the Colts back from the dead" yada yada yada.

Here's the history of the Colts:

- Sucked ass after Unitas.
- Their years of incompetence left them with a high draft pick to get Peyton.
- They rode the hall of famer to 11 playoff appearances in 12 years. They won 8 division titles in that time.
- When their star goes down for one year how does the storied franchise respond?? 2-14.
- Their incompetence left them with a high draft pick to get Luck.

Wash rinse repeat.

Ask Colt fans if they feel GUILTY for having Peyton for 12 years, then getting Luck for the next decade. All the Colts know how to do is suck, and draft HOF QBs. You can quote me.

The Bert Jones years were pretty good. But that is nitpicking. Great post.

[Daseal]

12th. Sounds like an awesome opportunity. I wouldn't bad mouth Luck. We've been lucky to see possibly the best rookie QB class ever. Both are great players that will be fun to watch for a long time.

A great resource is this indystar article that compares all rookies and their stats:
Test of Luck | Indianapolis Star | indystar.com

I suggest checking it out for the big differences between the two. Luck is asked to throw the rock a lot more than Griffin. Because of that teams are able to play better coverage. I think if we played a traditional NFL offense, like Luck, RG3 would see many more INTs. Also, fumble numbers may be important. RG3 has 12 fumbles (2 lost) and Luck has 10 (5 lost). So add an additional 3 turnovers to Luck.

I think Luck is a fantastic player, but really the change in DC is amazing. We haven't won for a long time. We've had 'hope' for the first few weeks of the year -- but the last time I was inspired going into week 17 was....... I don't even know.

Have fun and please let us know how it goes and find out if there's a way we can listen to the interview online!

Edit: Surprisingly RG3 only has 1 more rushing TD than Luck (6v5)

[CultBrennan59]

Don't go off QBR; its what Trent Dilfer made to make sure Aaron Rodgers is number 1 every year.


Mention what I've been saying for the past week; Andrew Luck has put his team in these holes and has gotten his team out of it. "An Arsonist that puts out his own fires"

You can mention that Luck has the second most turnovers in the league behind...Mark Sanchez.

RG3 only has 5 picks

RG3 has more Rushing yards

RG3 has lost weapons on offense and defense and this team is riding high. Lucks defense is much better and his offensive weapons have remained the same.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

RG3 has lost weapons on offense and defense and this team is riding high. Lucks defense is much better and his offensive weapons have remained the same.

False. Beside Reggie Wayne, that's not true. (Gonzalez, Garcon, CLark are all gone)

Colts defense ranked #26. Ours is ranked #28. We both give up the same points per game at 24.7. Much better? ROFL. If anything, our defenses are equal.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

False. Beside Reggie Wayne, that's not true. (Gonzalez, Garcon, CLark are all gone)

Colts defense ranked #26. Ours is ranked #28. We both give up the same points per game at 24.7. Much better? ROFL. If anything, our defenses are equal.

Luck has had the same guys all year. Rg3 had Fred Davis then he went out. He had garçon then didn't have him for 6 games. Fleener missed a couple games for luck but his 1,2,3,4 WRs have been the same all year.

And to start the year his defense was better, now they got a little worse and ours got a little better.

[12thMan]

Done. That wasn't so bad.

He gave like two or three shout outs to the Warpath.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Done. That wasn't so bad.

He gave like two or three shout outs to the Warpath.

You're answer to the third question was my favorite!

Answer me this question 3, and on the other side ye shall be

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

You're answer to the third question was my favorite!

Answer me this question 3, and on the other side ye shall be

Classic, wasn't it?

[budw38]

Nice 12th , liked that fact you brought up the past 20 years , and that we can beat Dallas & win our Division !

[12thMan]

By the way, Jake try to slip in Luck started with less argument, I rebutted with many of the points raised here. So thanks to all.

[firstdown]

U R the man.