Black Monday: NFL Coaches and Executives Carousel

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Bears fans should do their research on the guy

Yeah they were naming off his accolades as a QB coach and OC while in the NFL and the guy pretty much produced QB's with great stats that were winners everywhere he went.

[SOUL-SKINS]

SS .... Doesn't seem to be much interest in Kyle .
Have you heard anything otherwise. Thought he was going to be a hot candidate.
Hope he stays. So I guess this is a good thing.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

SS .... Doesn't seem to be much interest in Kyle .
Have you heard anything otherwise. Thought he was going to be a hot candidate.
Hope he stays. So I guess this is a good thing.

Well I thought Carolina might be an option, but otherwise no haven't heard anything

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

winning two grey cups is not a particularly impressive accomplishment. There are only 8 teams in the CFL for goodness sake. Other than that, i dont know what accomplishments he has that could be considered "distinguished." He's had alot of NFL position group/OC jobs over the years but none of them are remotely impressive.

From his his wikipedia webpage:

Marc Trestman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



That list is a joke - I actually laughed out loud at my desk. Trestman takes bad quarterbacks and teaches them a few parlor tricks so they look deceptively good at their pro-days. Then, NFL teams spend high draft picks on these guys and they go on to become colossal busts. Trestman = Snake Oil.

I do agree with your thought that he "deserves a shot" - as opposed to others here who seem to think the Bears made some sort of great hire. Hey, everyone deserves a shot, right? Still, the Bears fired Lovie Smith for this guy, and I view that as a major downgrade.

Yeah idk much about the guy but that list is a terrible example to use lol.. also if he was so great why was he in the CFL?

[SmootSmack]

You should really do more research on Trestman. You're missing a lot

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You should really do more research on Trestman. You're missing a lot

If its not on wikipedia, it didnt happen.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

winning two grey cups is not a particularly impressive accomplishment. There are only 8 teams in the CFL for goodness sake. Other than that, i dont know what accomplishments he has that could be considered "distinguished." He's had alot of NFL position group/OC jobs over the years but none of them are remotely impressive.

From his his wikipedia webpage:

Marc Trestman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



That list is a joke - I actually laughed out loud at my desk. Trestman takes bad quarterbacks and teaches them a few parlor tricks so they look deceptively good at their pro-days. Then, NFL teams spend high draft picks on these guys and they go on to become colossal busts. Trestman = Snake Oil.

I do agree with your thought that he "deserves a shot" - as opposed to others here who seem to think the Bears made some sort of great hire. Hey, everyone deserves a shot, right? Still, the Bears fired Lovie Smith for this guy, and I view that as a major downgrade.

How about Kosar, Gannon, Plummer, and Scott Mitchell( for his one huge year) ?
Edit: as Arizona OC they went to the playoffs for the first time since 1982, and look at what he did in 2002 with Oakland as their OC. Everywhere the guy goes there is success and offensive records are broken. He won a bowl game with NC State as their OC.
This is a great hire.
Edit: also BHA that list is a list of guys he prepared for the draft. Prepped for the combines. So - the fact that they were pretty much busts as first round picks sort of speaks to his genius. I mean somehow he made them look goid enough for teams to buy in. He was not their coach. Look at the QB's he coached. Seems to me that when he is around a qb they shine. Whether for the combine or for the season.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

How about Kosar, Gannon, Plummer, and Scott Mitchell( for his one huge year) ?
Edit: as Arizona OC they went to the playoffs for the first time since 1982, and look at what he did in 2002 with Oakland as their OC. Everywhere the guy goes there is success and offensive records are broken. He won a bowl game with NC State as their OC.
This is a great hire.
Edit: also BHA that list is a list of guys he prepared for the draft. Prepped for the combines. So - the fact that they were pretty much busts as first round picks sort of speaks to his genius. I mean somehow he made them look goid enough for teams to buy in. He was not their coach. Look at the QB's he coached. Seems to me that when he is around a qb they shine. Whether for the combine or for the season.

If you mean hes a genius at being a charlatan, youre right. None of the QBs you mentioned are particularly impressive either, but thats just me. Saying everywhere he goes is a success is also ridiculous.... winning a college bowl game - lol... if thats an important accomplishment, then that would make about 500 guys out there qualified to be head coaches in your opinion.

Originally Posted by Lotus

Actually winning two Grey Cups is quite meaningful. Lots of people are good OC's and QB coaches but cannot make the leap to head coach. Trestman has a track record of successfully making that leap.

We should expect the Bears to lead the NFL in rouges.

He has a 1 in 8 chance of winning every year. Jim Zorn would probably win it a few times, too. The fact that he's done so twice is not remotely meaningful in the context of being an NFL head coach. Thanks to Lovie Smith, the Bears are already a great football team.

I expect them to start out fairly hot, just like Zorn did when taking over for Gibbs. Within a year or two, the Lovie-effect will wear off, the Bears will decline, and Trestman will be out.

[SmootSmack]

Cowboys ST coach Joe DeCamillis taking same position with Bears whose ST coach left for same position with Chiefs

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Cowboys ST coach Joe DeCamillis taking same position with Bears whose ST coach left for same position with Chiefs

That's not a certainty. In order for DeCamillis to take the same position with another club, he has to be released from his current contract.

If the Bears offered him the title of Asst Head Coach, which is a step up, than he can leave without being released from his current contract.

Although I have no heartache with him leaving.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

That's not a certainty. In order for DeCamillis to take the same position with another club, he has to be released from his current contract.

If the Bears offered him the title of Asst Head Coach, which is a step up, than he can leave without being released from his current contract.

Although I have no heartache with him leaving.

He is getting the title

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

That's not a certainty. In order for DeCamillis to take the same position with another club, he has to be released from his current contract.

If the Bears offered him the title of Asst Head Coach, which is a step up, than he can leave without being released from his current contract.

Although I have no heartache with him leaving.

So you come back when we get knocked out of the playoffs. Figured you would have come here after the Dallas game and congratulated use on winning the div. Yea, right.

[SmootSmack]

Aaron Kromer is headed to Chicago to be the OC. Won't matter because the Bears are about to go 0-16 apparently

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Aaron Kromer is headed to Chicago to be the OC. Won't matter because the Bears are about to go 0-16 apparently

I know you werent replying to me, but I wanted to say that I dont think so. As i said, they are a very talented team. Trestman will coast off of Lovies success for a while. I definitely see them as a 7-9 to 9-7 team in 2013, afterwhich theyll decline until Trestmans fired. I really wish the Eagles had hired him.

[Chico23231]

Even though Marshall Lynch's season is over, I see several still feel the need to go Beast Mode