Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Are we still talking about this? The cap money is good as gone. It's not coming back. Not now, not later, but never. It would take Danny and Jerry killing their cash cow (we call it the NFL) in order to get any sort of justice out of this. The bottom line is, Danny and Jerry (or any other owner) care more about making money, than they do about principles or winning.

Thats a completely ridiculous statement and shows you have no idea what youre talking about.

In getting rid of those contracts, Snyder actually PAID OVER 100MM in money to bad players in lump sums, just to get them off the team and free up cap space... so he could spend even MORE OF HIS MONEY on new players who could help the team win.

If Snyder cared more about money than winning, he would have, for example, made fat albert play out his contract, or not dump the money in the uncap year, carrying dead money in future years, which would save him money as he wouldnt be able to spend it on new players.

You said it yourself - the cap money is gone. Snyders only option would be to file a case in against the league in court - one which they'd most certainly lose. And if they won, and the court ruled the league had committed collusion against the union, it would be disasterous for the league. Its a no-win situation.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Didn't the league risk it in the first place, by penalizing us. Snyder isn't gonna do anything, they know he won't go nuclear.

Right, he isn't going nuclear, we aren't going to get it negated, so we as fans just need to let it drop.

That said, I wonder if the NFL Exec committee could do something like re-finance the penalty, and make it 9mill this year and 9mill next. Problem is I think they would have to repartition all the splits that the other teams are getting.

[JoeRedskin]

The Doty decision ruled against the NFLPA - not the Redskins. The cap penalty against the Skins could have been evidence in their case of collusion against the NFL if they had (as part of the new agreement) waived their rights to sue over past acts of collusion - even if unknown.

As CREd said, the Skins could sue on the other owners on their own behalf. They won't.

[CultBrennan59]

Waiting for this thread to be titled "Good news: This thread is now locked because we're not getting any money back"

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Waiting for this thread to be titled "Good news: This thread is now locked because we're not getting any money back"

Exactly. lol

[SCRedskinsFan]

This is a discussion that seems to have run its course.

One point I never see mentioned is that, while we got a $36 million cap penalty spread over two years, I believe that "dumping" the Haynesworth and Hall contracts created substantially more cap space than the $36 million. ( I would love to have our cap experts verify the numbers)

I'm not saying that the timing of the penalty just before free agency didn't hurt or that we wouldn't have tried to spread the $$$ over a number of years to mitigate the effect, or that they weren't absolutely wrong in penalizing us for assuming that a capless year meant just that.

But lost in the discussion seems to be the fact that the Redskins did create a cap benefit for themselves in the process. Just my 2 cents worth...

[Ruhskins]

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Look, you don't like it? think we the few who want to talk about it are beating a dead horse? Then do us a solid and don't come in the thread. Some of us still like to talk about this topic. Some of us still like to vent. If you don't.... don't look.

This is a free country, if you don't like whats on the radio guess what... YOU have the availability to change the channel. If you don't like whats on tv, guess what.... YOU have the availability to change the channel. I'm so tired of others who are offended or don't like the topic being able to dictate what the rest of society should get to listen to or watch or talk about.

PS: have a nice day.

[44ever]

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

[ethat001]

Then again.. If you should be allowed to rant about "this topic", you'd think that Ruhskins would be allowed to post a picture of a dead horse. You also would have the ability to skip over his post...

Just sayin..

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by ethat001

Then again.. If you should be allowed to rant about "this topic", you'd think that Ruhskins would be allowed to post a picture of a dead horse. You also would have the ability to skip over his post...

Just sayin..

Schneed10 likes this.

[SBXVII]

Saw this on another site. Would be nice if true.

Per TK via twitter-
@TKextremeskins: 60% chance Skins get some Salary Cap money back at the upcoming Owners meeting

‏@HTTR24_7- (appears to be even more optimistic)
60.1% RT @TKextremeskins: 60% chance Skins get some Salary Cap money back at the upcoming Owners meeting.

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Saw this on another site. Would be nice if true.

So when is the owners meeting?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mbedner3420

So when is the owners meeting?

I thought it was something like 3 days after FA starts.

[Mayor]

Yeah, likely not going to happen. I have moved on, mostly, but still don't understand why Chicago wasn't penalized for front loading their gigantic Julius Peppers contract. The dude was paid $20million in 2010 including an accelerated signing bonus that counted 33% against the 2010 season.

By my calculation, by the normal way teams structure contracts, Peppers' 2010 cap hit would be $7 million (SB/6 + Vet minimum)... yet they skate?