The Moves We Should Make Next Year (merged)

SmootSmack · 11-09-2006, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by redsk1

Green is not a #3 qb. He only led the nfl in offense the last 5 years and really showed no signs of his age. #3???? He's a starter.

I'm a big Trent Green fan. But does Damon Huard's success this year speak more about his abilities or less about Green's?

MTK · 11-09-2006, 11:03 AM

Green isn't going to fall to a #3 QB, let's get real here.

He's still starting quality and at worst a very solid #2.

MTK · 11-09-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I'm a big Trent Green fan. But does Damon Huard's success this year speak more about his abilities or less about Green's?

From what I've read KC has scaled back their offense quite a bit for Huard. Plus that offense is all about LJ regardless of who the QB is.

61cad · 11-09-2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I'm a big Trent Green fan. But does Damon Huard's success this year speak more about his abilities or less about Green's?

The coach watches each of them all week during practice. I would guees their play during the weeks speaks for itself.

Is that why Green isn't starting?

SmootSmack · 11-09-2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

From what I've read KC has scaled back their offense quite a bit for Huard.

That would make sense. It is after all, no longer Vermeil/Saunders' offense.

offiss · 11-09-2006, 11:41 AM

So long as Gibbs has final say over personel decisions we are going no where, at least talent wise, the buck stops with him, so AA, AC, JC, and RM [who the vertic is still out on] will continue to happen, not to mention his continued delusion that brunell is an NFL qb, the old dog will continue to return to his vomit, and continue to throw draft after draft away. After all if you are incapable of evaluating NFL established talent how in the world are you going to be able to evaluate talent coming out of college? Which is a huge reason Gibbs is so giddy about free agency to begin with.

We are right now poised to sink even further into obscurity if J.Campbell doesn't pan out, let's face it how long do you think Gibbs stick's with him if he can't handle the NFL? Will he give him 3 years like Brunell, or 3 minutes like Ramsey? Something tells me he will have just as tough of a time admitting Campbell is a bust [if it turns out that way] as he has had with Brunell.

So for all the experts out there who feel it is neccesary for a QB to have at least 2 years of playing experience, well you better hope Brunell can win the big one this year because we will be waiting quite a while for JC to actually be ready to take this team to a SB, that's if he's even capable of playing the position in the first place. Personally if it's taken him this long and he has yet to force himself onto the field especially considering what's playing in front of him, then how long will it take before JC master's an actual game? I don't even want to think about it.

As for Trent Green obviously some one from our scouting department must be posting here, the guy is going to be 37, he is right now being outplayed by a journeymen QB, he will not win his job back, and we want to take on that cast off? Does anyone think about building for the future? It's like george Allen never left.

Byron Leftwhich? Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

djdunick · 11-09-2006, 01:42 PM

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I'm a big Trent Green fan. But does Damon Huard's success this year speak more about his abilities or less about Green's?

If you're trying to say that the KC system is making Green look good instead of Green having talent then WOW Brunell really does suck!

Isn't it ironic that although most Skins fans would like to see a QB change that Brunell is actually ranked #8 in the NFL? I know it's because he doesn't throw a lot of INT's and that figures heavily into the equation but most people would I think like a QB change.

Paintrain · 11-09-2006, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by djdunick

If you're trying to say that the KC system is making Green look good instead of Green having talent then WOW Brunell really does suck!

Isn't it ironic that although most Skins fans would like to see a QB change that Brunell is actually ranked #8 in the NFL? I know it's because he doesn't throw a lot of INT's and that figures heavily into the equation but most people would I think like a QB change.

QB ratings mean nothing. David Carr was the #1 rated QB thru the 1st quarter of the season. Brunell isn't making enough plays to win games for us, that's the problem. First downs, 3rd down conversions and TD passes are the only things you want from your QB.

SmootSmack · 11-09-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by djdunick

If you're trying to say that the KC system is making Green look good instead of Green having talent then WOW Brunell really does suck!

Isn't it ironic that although most Skins fans would like to see a QB change that Brunell is actually ranked #8 in the NFL? I know it's because he doesn't throw a lot of INT's and that figures heavily into the equation but most people would I think like a QB change.

No, I wasn't trying to say that. I mean Green has been in the system for several years. And he had Willie Roaf.

That Guy · 11-09-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 61cad

How is he doing this year?

36 and not getting younger.

Look at the 32 starting QB's in league who would start him over?

How about Miami? They benched their 29 year old banged up QB.

Maybe, Oakland but he would last one set of downs behind that O-line.

I don't see Trent Green starting anywhere next year.

are you kidding? i'd start him over losman, harrington, kitna, johnson, and walter at least. he's not a #2 at best, he's a #1.

That Guy · 11-09-2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Why do we need Clements? Who is going to be the nickel CB? Springs was supposed to be the 'glue' that held the defense together, does he get demoted? We draft Rogers #9 overall 2 years ago, does he get demoted? Clements isn't coming in to be a nickel CB, dude is a stud.. It would be great if Freeney comes free but don't count on it. We need to trade down in the draft (assuming a top 10 pick) to add picks to get a SS, DE, CB, WR and OL depth. Skill positions we are ok but we don't have the other strong pieces to round out the roster.

dude, we have 1 1st round pick and that's it. and if we trade down, denver can give us an even worse first rounder. the CB crop isn't great this year, the DE crop is. and rogers would be demoted to the nickel, since he's not even near being close to the level that springs or clements are at. next year's SS is already on the roster - whether it's prioleau or vincent. and why do you think we need yet another WR?

4mrusmc · 11-09-2006, 09:55 PM

I went to nfl.com and they show Prioleau on the roster still. Isn't he out for the year? Having him go down was a big blow to our defense. Hope he will be back better than ever next year.

That Guy · 11-09-2006, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 4mrusmc

I went to nfl.com and they show Prioleau on the roster still. Isn't he out for the year? Having him go down was a big blow to our defense. Hope he will be back better than ever next year.

yeah, ACL on the first play of the season, so we'll see him next year.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace · 11-09-2006, 10:27 PM

its funny to me how people are all for cutting half the team and upgrading. Guys like springs, jansen, and wynn are important to the team in bigger capacities than just on the field. We all saw what happened when one guy was cut from the secondary...do we really want to overhaul the whole team again. Keep as many players as you can, only sign new guys you have to bring in. For all the complaining about the front office of this team, many people on this board are just as bad. Signing a probowl player at every position doesn't always work.

That Guy · 11-09-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

its funny to me how people are all for cutting half the team and upgrading. Guys like springs, jansen, and wynn are important to the team in bigger capacities than just on the field. We all saw what happened when one guy was cut from the secondary...do we really want to overhaul the whole team again. Keep as many players as you can, only sign new guys you have to bring in. For all the complaining about the front office of this team, many people on this board are just as bad. Signing a probowl player at every position doesn't always work.

i haven't seen much talk besides clements, so i'm not sure where you're readding that.

11-09-2006, 11:03 AM	#137
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,576	Re: The Moves We Should Make Next Year (merged) Green isn't going to fall to a #3 QB, let's get real here. He's still starting quality and at worst a very solid #2. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-09-2006, 11:41 AM	#141
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: The Moves We Should Make Next Year (merged) So long as Gibbs has final say over personel decisions we are going no where, at least talent wise, the buck stops with him, so AA, AC, JC, and RM [who the vertic is still out on] will continue to happen, not to mention his continued delusion that brunell is an NFL qb, the old dog will continue to return to his vomit, and continue to throw draft after draft away. After all if you are incapable of evaluating NFL established talent how in the world are you going to be able to evaluate talent coming out of college? Which is a huge reason Gibbs is so giddy about free agency to begin with. We are right now poised to sink even further into obscurity if J.Campbell doesn't pan out, let's face it how long do you think Gibbs stick's with him if he can't handle the NFL? Will he give him 3 years like Brunell, or 3 minutes like Ramsey? Something tells me he will have just as tough of a time admitting Campbell is a bust [if it turns out that way] as he has had with Brunell. So for all the experts out there who feel it is neccesary for a QB to have at least 2 years of playing experience, well you better hope Brunell can win the big one this year because we will be waiting quite a while for JC to actually be ready to take this team to a SB, that's if he's even capable of playing the position in the first place. Personally if it's taken him this long and he has yet to force himself onto the field especially considering what's playing in front of him, then how long will it take before JC master's an actual game? I don't even want to think about it. As for Trent Green obviously some one from our scouting department must be posting here, the guy is going to be 37, he is right now being outplayed by a journeymen QB, he will not win his job back, and we want to take on that cast off? Does anyone think about building for the future? It's like george Allen never left. Byron Leftwhich? Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-09-2006, 09:55 PM	#147
4mrusmc Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 55 Posts: 559	Re: The Moves We Should Make Next Year (merged) I went to nfl.com and they show Prioleau on the roster still. Isn't he out for the year? Having him go down was a big blow to our defense. Hope he will be back better than ever next year.

11-09-2006, 10:27 PM	#149
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Age: 39 Posts: 896	Re: The Moves We Should Make Next Year (merged) its funny to me how people are all for cutting half the team and upgrading. Guys like springs, jansen, and wynn are important to the team in bigger capacities than just on the field. We all saw what happened when one guy was cut from the secondary...do we really want to overhaul the whole team again. Keep as many players as you can, only sign new guys you have to bring in. For all the complaining about the front office of this team, many people on this board are just as bad. Signing a probowl player at every position doesn't always work.

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