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Old 02-15-2007, 05:16 PM   #1
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If he's not originally from that area, I think he'd have to be crazy to jump aboard the Lions ship. However, should a winning team jump into the race, it might make him tougher to sign.
We probably have an advantage over other teams insofar as Fletcher will not have to learn a new system. That tends to be a pretty significant issue for a lot of players. Moreover, not only does Fletcher know the system, he thrives in it.
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We probably have an advantage over other teams insofar as Fletcher will not have to learn a new system. That tends to be a pretty significant issue for a lot of players. Moreover, not only does Fletcher know the system, he thrives in it.
This is probably far fetched, but I wonder if the front office was worried that Dale Lindsey's gruff attitude and reputation would make it tough to lure a free agent linebacker. If the Skins are targeting Fletcher and Greg Williams knows that Fletcher hates Lindsey's style of coaching, that could have factored in (obviously not the only reason).
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Take this one outside fellas.

That Guy, I believe you meant no harm, but the post did seem unnecessarily harsh.
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Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements

if we did get London Fletcher, do u think we would start Lemar or Rocky on the weakside????? I say probably Lemar and if either of the other 2 guys gets hurt then Lemar fills in for them and Rocky takes over for Lemar. I say any way it happens this upcoming season is Lemar's last in Washington, unless he plays amazing.
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if we did get London Fletcher, do u think we would start Lemar or Rocky on the weakside????? I say probably Lemar and if either of the other 2 guys gets hurt then Lemar fills in for them and Rocky takes over for Lemar. I say any way it happens this upcoming season is Lemar's last in Washington, unless he plays amazing.
That's the great part in all of this. Not only does the Fletcher signing upgrade the MLB position, but it also gives us much needed depth at ALL the LB positions. Basically it makes LB (IMO our biggest problem in 2006) a non issue. That will do wonders for the defense. With the Clements signing, I believe we will have fixed the back 7 entirely. The D Line, where it all begins, will still be an issue, but with the back 7 fixed up, it will be much easier to identify the problems on the front 4 and draft players on the DL accordingly.
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That's the great part in all of this. Not only does the Fletcher signing upgrade the MLB position, but it also gives us much needed depth at ALL the LB positions. Basically it makes LB (IMO our biggest problem in 2006) a non issue. That will do wonders for the defense. With the Clements signing, I believe we will have fixed the back 7 entirely. The D Line, where it all begins, will still be an issue, but with the back 7 fixed up, it will be much easier to identify the problems on the front 4 and draft players on the DL accordingly.
Would you be satisfied with signing Fletcher and Smoot rather than Fletcher and Clements? Speaking entirely from a fiscal point of view. Can the money saved (18 million signing bonus?) be used for other areas in need of depth?
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Would you be satisfied with signing Fletcher and Smoot rather than Fletcher and Clements? Speaking entirely from a fiscal point of view. Can the money saved (18 million signing bonus?) be used for other areas in need of depth?
I don't think Smoot will be the clear cut No. 1 corner this team needs. I don't think Clements gets anywhere near an 18 million SB from anyone; I think he can be had for about 10-12 million on the bonus. Clements is worth it though, he's the real deal at CB.
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i think clements is going to get 15-18mill in bonus money. I don't think smoot is nearly as good, and we should really only be looking at DL with the #6 pick, it's deep with real talent this year. you can get good LB's in the late 1st/early second every year, and decent ones yearly in FA. good DL guys are much harder to get.
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ding ding ding we have a winner...... THAT GUY he is exactly right clements will get the bouns he wants for one reason you will be shocked to read this........................... HE HAS EARNED IT PEOPLE HE IS A PRO BOWLER HE SHUT SOWN MARVIN HARRISON ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS DONT BELIEVE ME LOOK UP THE 17 16 GAME BETWEEN THE COLTS AND BILLS IN 06 AND TELL ME WHAT HARRISONS STATS ARE

to the draft gaines adams and alan branch are both monsters and we cant go wrong with either pick but look at the skins championshipp teams from the past they could run the ball which we can do 4th best this year without portis and they could stop the run we couldnt do that and tiki barber has proved that more than once so the BEST THING REDSKINS FANS COULD HEAR COME DRAFT DAY IS...........WITH THE 6TH PICK IN THE 2007 NFL DRAFT THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS SELECT ALAN BRANCH DEFENSICE TACKLE MICHIGAN
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ding ding ding we have a winner...... THAT GUY he is exactly right clements will get the bouns he wants for one reason you will be shocked to read this........................... HE HAS EARNED IT PEOPLE HE IS A PRO BOWLER HE SHUT SOWN MARVIN HARRISON ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS DONT BELIEVE ME LOOK UP THE 17 16 GAME BETWEEN THE COLTS AND BILLS IN 06 AND TELL ME WHAT HARRISONS STATS ARE

to the draft gaines adams and alan branch are both monsters and we cant go wrong with either pick but look at the skins championshipp teams from the past they could run the ball which we can do 4th best this year without portis and they could stop the run we couldnt do that and tiki barber has proved that more than once so the BEST THING REDSKINS FANS COULD HEAR COME DRAFT DAY IS...........WITH THE 6TH PICK IN THE 2007 NFL DRAFT THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS SELECT ALAN BRANCH DEFENSICE TACKLE MICHIGAN

Alot of people seem to want Branch, but I feel like its contradicting everything we want the Redskins to do. They drafted two defensive tackles last year, who both showed some promise, and oen was pretty damn good. Everyone says how we should develop people and build through the draft...then what the hell sense would drafting another DT make, expecially when we still have another good year or two out of Griffin. I think we should go defensive end, where lets face it, we have nothing in the future. We have one capable DE in Carter, and Daniels is ok, but as much as I love Wynn as a person, he is not a very good player anymore and Evans is a decent change of pace, but probaboly wont be a starter. I really hope we go with Andersen in the draft, or possibly Adams.
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Alot of people seem to want Branch, but I feel like its contradicting everything we want the Redskins to do. They drafted two defensive tackles last year, who both showed some promise, and oen was pretty damn good. Everyone says how we should develop people and build through the draft...then what the hell sense would drafting another DT make, expecially when we still have another good year or two out of Griffin. I think we should go defensive end, where lets face it, we have nothing in the future. We have one capable DE in Carter, and Daniels is ok, but as much as I love Wynn as a person, he is not a very good player anymore and Evans is a decent change of pace, but probaboly wont be a starter. I really hope we go with Andersen in the draft, or possibly Adams.
I think a DE would be good, but if they can't get Adams, I think Branch is better than Andersen. I don't know that either Montgomery or Golston will ever be a #1 type defensive tackle and I think they need that now. I disagree that they'll get 2 more years outta Griffin. His time for being injured and playing in 10 games is up with me. I think they need someone who can step in and make a difference now, at either position, I just feel like Branch is the best available D Lineman. But I thought Merriman or Ware were the best available defensive players when we got Rogers and look how wrong I've been about that...oh wait.
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Alot of people seem to want Branch, but I feel like its contradicting everything we want the Redskins to do. They drafted two defensive tackles last year, who both showed some promise, and oen was pretty damn good. Everyone says how we should develop people and build through the draft...then what the hell sense would drafting another DT make, expecially when we still have another good year or two out of Griffin. I think we should go defensive end, where lets face it, we have nothing in the future. We have one capable DE in Carter, and Daniels is ok, but as much as I love Wynn as a person, he is not a very good player anymore and Evans is a decent change of pace, but probaboly wont be a starter. I really hope we go with Andersen in the draft, or possibly Adams.

golston looked good as a backup, he looked pretty forgetable as a starter. Good value pick, but he's not there yet. he'd be a good #3 in the rotation.
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Alot of people seem to want Branch, but I feel like its contradicting everything we want the Redskins to do. They drafted two defensive tackles last year, who both showed some promise, and oen was pretty damn good. Everyone says how we should develop people and build through the draft...then what the hell sense would drafting another DT make, expecially when we still have another good year or two out of Griffin. I think we should go defensive end, where lets face it, we have nothing in the future. We have one capable DE in Carter, and Daniels is ok, but as much as I love Wynn as a person, he is not a very good player anymore and Evans is a decent change of pace, but probaboly wont be a starter. I really hope we go with Andersen in the draft, or possibly Adams.
Let's not overestimate Golston and Montgomery just yet. Golston had some good moments, but he's got his fair share of cleatmarks on his chest too. Let's face it, this line got trampled last year. Golston and Montgomery are backups at best -- they're not 16-game starters. Griffin's only got a season or two left, and Salave'a plays on one foot most of the year.

Make no mistake, defensive tackle has to be addressed this year. Branch is said to be the best player at the #6 spot, assuming nobody's picked him up before us. It all starts up front, and we have NO ONE who can tie up blockers and be a consistent penetrating force at the line of scrimmage.

We can't pass up on Branch anymore than we could have passed up Sean Taylor in '04.
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Alot of people seem to want Branch, but I feel like its contradicting everything we want the Redskins to do. They drafted two defensive tackles last year, who both showed some promise, and oen was pretty damn good. Everyone says how we should develop people and build through the draft...then what the hell sense would drafting another DT make, expecially when we still have another good year or two out of Griffin. I think we should go defensive end, where lets face it, we have nothing in the future. We have one capable DE in Carter, and Daniels is ok, but as much as I love Wynn as a person, he is not a very good player anymore and Evans is a decent change of pace, but probaboly wont be a starter. I really hope we go with Andersen in the draft, or possibly Adams.
I just dont know if we could pass on Branch if we choose to use the pick. Golston played well, Montgomery not so much. Branch may possibly be a starter right away. I am not sold on the DE. He is rather small at 260, would give up on avg 40+lbs in the NFL.
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I like Golston and Montgomery but unless one or the other puts on about 30 lbs they wil not be especially effective against the run. We need a road block-type of guy in there.
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