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Old 04-08-2008, 11:36 PM   #1
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:47 AM   #2
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An AK or M4 for home protection? Isn't that a bit over the top?

Why not just go all the way with something like an M60 mounted to your living room window? Or how about a Barrett for your roof top sniping needs?
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:53 AM   #3
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An AK or M4 for home protection? Isn't that a bit over the top?

Why not just go all the way with something like an M60 mounted to your living room window?
It is not as big as you think. Pistols fire much larger rounds, 5.56 is equivelant to a 22. Recoil and trigger squeeze (along with other things)can cause you to be very innacurate when firing a pistol. The M-4 has very little kick and a butstock to help stabalize the weapon. A pistol can hold 15 or 16 rounds. A M-4 with legal magazines can hold 20-21 rounds.

A pistol has more stopping power, but I am not trying to stop you. In my home I want to be more accurate than anything else.
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:36 PM   #4
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Re: Ted Nugent on Gun Control

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An AK or M4 for home protection? Isn't that a bit over the top?

Why not just go all the way with something like an M60 mounted to your living room window? Or how about a Barrett for your roof top sniping needs?
This is one of the biggest problems as I see it with Gun control. Media, and political spin. The "assualt weapon" ban of late was nothing but window dressing by the proponents of same. It affectively duped an..........uninformed public into believing something had been accomplished.
Attempts such as these do nothing but inconvenience "law abiding" people that deal through legit channels.
Thugs probably don't use legitimate purchasing methods to buy their weapons for nefarious purposes
The weapons on the ban list don't do anything (for the most part) that every other gun does. A semi-automatic is a semi-automatic. Call it an AK-47, or a Remington model 742. You can buy large capacity magazines for both (or about anything else for that matter)
Actually the Remington is far more accurate, and for that reason is probably the more deadly of the two.
However, we were told the Ak, AR, Ttek=9's, etc, were bad (and they do look evil). It's a gun, they are made to kill.

I am a lifelong gun owner, hunter, and lover of the outdoors. I would LOVE to see a positive impact on the violent crime rate in this country. I would also be very receptive to legislation that was rationally devised, based on sound reason. I would not have a problem if it caused more hardship for myself and others like me if it had some chance of success.
To date, I have not seen it. Furthermore, our Government seems unlikely to have the ability to accomplish such a task.
Look at the good job we have done with Drug trafficking, and illegal immigration in this country.

PS Matty, I love the .50 cals...............however, I do not own one
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:03 PM   #5
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Re: Ted Nugent on Gun Control

Is the M16 more accurate than the M4?
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:05 PM   #6
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With its longer barrel, the M16 is inherently more accurate.
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Yeah, what cpayne said.
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The Maryland AR15 Shooters Site

Q: I thought AR-15s were banned? Well, yes and no. Some states & municipalities have banned them (check your local regulations). Some bans specify by name, some by features, others by commonality of parts. Manufacturers changed names and deleted features to comply with the bans.

Buying & Selling an AR-15 in Maryland: Since this is a site devoted to Maryland shooters I'll let you in the legalities in Maryland. In Mayland most AR-15 style rifles are considered 'regulated' weapons (like handguns). You must pay an extra $10 fee, have seen the safety video (or show a DD-214), and wait the 8 day 'cooling off' period before you can pick up your rifle. You are also limited to one (1) Rifle (or Lower Receiver) in a 30 day period. This also prevents you from buying a handgun during this period, since you are limited to 1 'regulated weapon' per 30 day period (either a handgun or so-called 'assault weapon'). Private transfers of AR-15s are PROHIBITED - they must either go through an FFL (max fee he can charge is $20 per law) or you can go to the local State Police barracks and they can do the transfer. There is an EXCEPTION for Colt Sporter H-BAR Rifle; Eagle Arms EA-15 (probably due to differences with internal parts). These are treated just like any other rifle; private transfers are permitted, there is no waiting period, no limit to how many you can buy at a time, nor will it interfere with your purchase of a handgun. State Police consider any rifle with an HBAR barrel (like the Bushmaster) to be identical. Note: the State Police have indicated HBAR Bushmasters are NOT considered 'regulated' - they are treated like the HBAR Colts. As such you are not required to have a 'safety class' to purchase one. Most dealers don't know this and don't bother to check it out (so expect to pay the fee, wait the time, and take the 'class').
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Any idea, Angry what the State thinks the distinction in the AR's is about?
Flat top? Flash suppressor?
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Any idea, Angry what the State thinks the distinction in the AR's is about?
Flat top? Flash suppressor?

Please rephrase the question. I am not sure what you are trying to ask me.
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What does the state use to determine is a waiting period (regulated weapon) AR, and a non?
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What does the state use to determine is a waiting period (regulated weapon) AR, and a non?
Whether or not it is semi-automatic. If the weapon can automatically re-chamber a round from a cartridge or magazine, then it requires a waiting period.
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to me, the biggest difference is the actual gun. its sole purpose is to kill. period. guns kill people, plain and simple. but, one of the biggest problems we have today, is all the bickering, and negotiating by lawyers, to get reduced sentences for crimes involving guns. it seems like the laws are OK. they just get manipulated by the legal system. lets review what laws we have, and if they are good enough to stay in the books, then lets enforce them like they were written
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to me, the biggest difference is the actual gun. its sole purpose is to kill. period. guns kill people, plain and simple. but, one of the biggest problems we have today, is all the bickering, and negotiating by lawyers, to get reduced sentences for crimes involving guns. it seems like the laws are OK. they just get manipulated by the legal system. lets review what laws we have, and if they are good enough to stay in the books, then lets enforce them like they were written
I would have to disagree, I would tell you that from my point of view that the sole purpose of a gun is to launch a bullet at an intended target. That target does not have to be a living thing. For some of us it can be a bottle, a piece of paper, or a clay pigeon. Some people just like to shoot, but will never pull a gun on anyone in their entire lives. Yes, many of those same people may carry one for protection at home. That is because most of them know how to use it.

This morning a story on CNN explained how a former female boxer fought off a burgular in her home. She used a tool to do it. Not everyone can wield a hoe like she can. Not everybody can shoot gun properly either, but to take that tool away from everybody is not right. Whats next, a metal detector and security at your front door telling you that you cannot bring toe nail clippers into your house because they can potentially be a weapon? Come on.
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to me, the biggest difference is the actual gun. its sole purpose is to kill. period. guns kill people, plain and simple. but, one of the biggest problems we have today, is all the bickering, and negotiating by lawyers, to get reduced sentences for crimes involving guns. it seems like the laws are OK. they just get manipulated by the legal system. lets review what laws we have, and if they are good enough to stay in the books, then lets enforce them like they were written
I agree 100%, too many times the justice system gets manipulated and people get set free or get just a slap on the wrist when in fact they should have went to jail or what not. I do think that we need to enforce the laws more..
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