How Many Games Should Vick Be Suspended?

[DEVIL'S OWN]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Knowing what you know so far of the Vick case, and considering recent conduct decisions made on the likes of Pacman, Tank, and Chris Henry, if a decision had to be made today what would you do?

We dont know anything, can yall at least wait until the trial over with, before you convict him. If he did do it, well, he's buried his career and life, but if he hasn't then, let the case play out......... I've seen people on here say they hate Vick, thats a strong word, I can't see anyone hating a man that much unless its for reason, not concerning, football.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by DEVIL'S OWN

We dont know anything, can yall at least wait until the trial over with, before you convict him. If he did do it, well, he's buried his career and life, but if he hasn't then, let the case play out......... I've seen people on here say they hate Vick, thats a strong word, I can't see anyone hating a man that much unless its for reason, not concerning, football.

While I would like to agree with you, the evidence is just too overwhelming for an educated person to dismiss.
I understand he's "innocent until proven guilty", but that only applies to a court of law. From all the evidence that has been presented, he's guilty.

[DEVIL'S OWN]

Originally Posted by jsarno

While I would like to agree with you, the evidence is just too overwhelming for an educated person to dismiss.
I understand he's "innocent until proven guilty", but that only applies to a court of law. From all the evidence that has been presented, he's guilty.

I hear you, but I want to see what happens first, and I keep seeing the word "HATE" on here, hate is a racist word, which really mean's in some way the person who hate's feel's inferior to the other, wow, even on this site, I can't believe the power's to be, would let that kind of stuff go on, (way to step up), you can hate a team, for having a different logo, but a man, for being indited on a charge, even if he did do it, his ass is out of the league and he qualify for stupid. IF he's not guilty and just being drug in because some other's are trying to plea out............then I want to see guilty on M. Vick and then I'll say good by to his dumb ass, but.........I'm try leave the racist word's like "HATE" out!!!!!!!!!!!

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by DEVIL'S OWN

I hear you, but I want to see what happens first, and I keep seeing the word "HATE" on here, hate is a racist word, which really mean's in some way the person who hate's feel's inferior to the other, wow, even on this site, I can't believe the power's to be, would let that kind of stuff go on, (way to step up), you can hate a team, for having a different logo, but a man, for being indited on a charge, even if he did do it, his ass is out of the league and he qualify for stupid. IF he's not guilty and just being drug in because some other's are trying to plea out............then I want to see guilty on M. Vick and then I'll say good by to his dumb ass, but.........I'm try leave the racist word's like "HATE" out!!!!!!!!!!!

hate - "The emotion of hate; a feeling of dislike so strong that it demands action"

racism - "The belief that one 'racial group' is inferior to another and the practices of the dominant group to maintain the inferior position of the dominated group. Often defined as a combination of power, prejudice and discrimination."

I think your confused

[DEVIL'S OWN]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

hate - "The emotion of hate; a feeling of dislike so strong that it demands action"

racism - "The belief that one 'racial group' is inferior to another and the practices of the dominant group to maintain the inferior position of the dominated group. Often defined as a combination of power, prejudice and discrimination."

I think your confused

No I think you are? Please dont give me that bullshit version of the dictonary, If you hate this man, for what reason,.... being indicted doesn't mean GUILTY, (remember that) hate and racism goes hand in hand, if you hate someone, its because of your inferiority towards them, not cause you know this person, ever since he came in the league, He dont do this right and he dont do that..... Like I said before "IF HE'S GUILTY, THEN GOOD BY TO HIM FROM THE LEAGUE", but to say you hate him.......has to be a motivation behind it......... but until he's found guilty, then im wait it out, but he does make to much money to be doing stuff like that, thats just straight DUMB....and as a Fan of Sports, I hate to see, a Superior Playmaker like that ruin his life, but if he's guilty............HE MADE HIS BED. but thanks the def.

[LMsexyAO]

Originally Posted by DEVIL'S OWN

I hear you, but I want to see what happens first, and I keep seeing the word "HATE" on here, hate is a racist word, which really mean's in some way the person who hate's feel's inferior to the other, wow, even on this site, I can't believe the power's to be, would let that kind of stuff go on, (way to step up), you can hate a team, for having a different logo, but a man, for being indited on a charge, even if he did do it, his ass is out of the league and he qualify for stupid. IF he's not guilty and just being drug in because some other's are trying to plea out............then I want to see guilty on M. Vick and then I'll say good by to his dumb ass, but.........I'm try leave the racist word's like "HATE" out!!!!!!!!!!!

Woah let's not start bringing race into this. And I'm not sure if I understand how hate equates to a racist word, and especially how hating someone is an admission of feeling inferior to them.

As far as Vick goes, I think his season, endorsments, and career in generally is over. Every day seems to bring more rumors and further evidence of his envolment.

[DEVIL'S OWN]

Benoit, murdered his family.........and it was just a "tragacy" I don't cant remember in any hate going on............... I can see the difference now, kill a dog.........your the low life of all, kill your family and get the sympathy tag..........(lol)

[dallass-blows 2]

"sack #7"

"no excuse for animal abuse"

god i hate peta, i heard an interesting story on TV on that new show FIRST TAKE that Peta had a member of it's Hirearchy killing dogs and dumping them in dumpsters, yet they supported him the whole way until he was aquited of all charges. very interesting

bunch of hypocrites

[Daseal]

Everyone keeps saying wait till all the facts, wait for the trial, etc etc. I would agree with that but the player policy in place is grey and doesn't require that. I just don't find it fair that you can suspend pacman who hasn't been convicted of a damn thing (and there's a far better chance he gets off completely than Vick) yet wait for Vick to finish his trial. Goodell HAS to suspend him at this point. Not yet, wait till NFL security finishes their analysis then go off that. Even if he gives him a year that is easily defendable.

Devils Own: Benoit and Michael Vick. Bad comparison. Benoit himself got absolutely zero sympathy. He was a fucking monster and should enjoy his spot in hell. There was sympathy for his wife and son, not for him.

Saden, the league CAN do whatever they want with the new player policy if they give the league a black eye. I wonder who has a higher percentage of wins, the DA in Las Vegas or the feds. The feds have a 95% conviction rate.

[Darrell_Green_28]

Well I think the Commish should go by the new NFL Personal Conduct Policy of the NFL, if the circumstances call for suspension under the NFL PC Policy then suspend him and theres no need to wait for a trial.

[Daseal]

Hey Devils Own: You Can't Spell by Rob Manuel [B3TA : WE LOVE THE WEB]

Indicted by the feds is damn close to guilty. 95% of federal indicted cases result in a guilty result. This isn't some slackjawed DA (Poindexter?) this is the federal government. Is he guilty YET? No. Has Adam Jones been convicted of anything yet? No.

Racism being an excuse for this shit is ridiculous.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Hey Devils Own: You Can't Spell by Rob Manuel [B3TA : WE LOVE THE WEB]

Indicted by the feds is damn close to guilty. 95% of federal indicted cases result in a guilty result. This isn't some slackjawed DA (Poindexter?) this is the federal government. Is he guilty YET? No. Has Adam Jones been convicted of anything yet? No.

Racism being an excuse for this shit is ridiculous.

The Feds don't f'around. They hardly take on a case they can't get a conviction on which leads me to believe Vick is a cooked goose. Does that mean the NFL should give him the boot before the Feds do?

[Darrell_Green_28]

Originally Posted by saden1

The Feds don't f'around. They hardly take on a case they can't get a conviction on which leads me to believe Vick is a cooked goose. Does that mean the NFL should give him to boot before the Feds do?

YES If what has occurred is against the NFL's Personal Conduct Policy like I said. Vick has rules and regulations he has to follow in the NFL as well as all other players.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

YES If what has occurred is against the NFL's Personal Conduct Policy like I said. Vick has rules and regulations he has to follow in the NFL as well as all other players.

If he did violate the conduct policy you better believe he would have been suspended. So the question is why hasn't the NFL suspend Vick?

[Darrell_Green_28]

Originally Posted by saden1

If he did violate the conduct policy you better believe he would have been suspended. So the question is why hasn't the NFL suspend Vick?

Notice Pacman was not immdiately suspended took a while for Commish to make the decision.