If Not Joe, Then Who?

70Chip · 12-04-2007, 04:58 PM

Instead of hiring Cowher, why not just hire Dick Lebeau? Isn't he the real genius behind their defensive culture? You can hire any damn fool to scream and make faces. Plus, Lebeau is in his 70s (I think) so it will piss off all the right people in this forum.

Stacks42 · 12-04-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Just think how good the Colts could be if only Tony Dungy wasn't such a softie...

Touche,
Peyton Manning is basically the coach on offense and leader of that team tho.

Stacks42 · 12-04-2007, 05:11 PM

Anyways.... I think GW should takeover for Gibbs, keep Saunders as the O coach if he will stay. They players respect GW, and he is a great leader.

rotahe39 · 12-04-2007, 05:13 PM

Bring back Marty....we went 8-8 with Tony Banks as our quarterback....imagine what he could do with Campbell and that defense

Redskin Rich · 12-04-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Instead of hiring Cowher, why not just hire Dick Lebeau? Isn't he the real genius behind their defensive culture? You can hire any damn fool to scream and make faces. Plus, Lebeau is in his 70s (I think) so it will piss off all the right people in this forum.

Nah, Cowher was good with whoever his many coordinators were....

Lebeau was the head coach of the bungles... and we all know how well he did with that.

I hate retread coaches that have failed. That is why I say Grimm who has never been, or Cowher who has been successful.

SFREDSKIN · 12-04-2007, 06:20 PM

Hey Jack Pardee is still sought after and available (maybe)

ESPN - Houston contacts Pardee about coaching job - College Football

Giantone · 12-04-2007, 06:43 PM

Ok ,don't ever say I didn't work with you guys.You guys(Skins) take Coughlin and we'll take Gibbs!!!!!!!!

Sammy Baugh Fan · 12-04-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Ok ,don't ever say I didn't work with you guys.You guys(Skins) take Coughlin and we'll take Gibbs!!!!!!!!

Truth is almost all Teams would make this trade for Gibbs for their current coach.

NO is our answer

Redskin Rich · 12-04-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Ok ,don't ever say I didn't work with you guys.You guys(Skins) take Coughlin and we'll take Gibbs!!!!!!!!

The premise of this thread was not that Gibbs must go... the premise was if he decided he wanted to leave the NFL again.

prinzeofmoval · 12-04-2007, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

Touche,
Peyton Manning is basically the coach on offense and leader of that team tho.

i beg to differ..before tony dungy peyton was just a good quarteback on a bad team. Mora was a good coach but he did basically nothing with them. Dungy is the best thing to happen to the colts. he brought stability to the team the same way he did with the bucs. his softness is what stops him sometimes from winning it all..but he put all that to rest last year.

Redskin Warrior · 12-05-2007, 12:07 AM

I say other b/c i feel we need new blood in to rebuild I believe everyone would like the Redskins to become a contender every year like the Pats, Colts & Cowboys. But they had to start from scratch I feel we should get a young head coach hungry & current. I say Jason Garrett from DAL he has put in a nice offensive system in Big D. I feel he would have a great chemistry with his team. You see how he gets along with Romo, Witten & T.O.

SmootSmack · 12-05-2007, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

I say other b/c i feel we need new blood in to rebuild I believe everyone would like the Redskins to become a contender every year like the Pats, Colts & Cowboys. But they had to start from scratch I feel we should get a young head coach hungry & current. I say Jason Garrett from DAL he has put in a nice offensive system in Big D. I feel he would have a great chemistry with his team. You see how he gets along with Romo, Witten & T.O.

I really doubt the Cowboys would let Garrett go to a division rival (although there was that rumor last month about going to the Giants).

Anyhow, I think we need to keep some semblance of continuity. Now I'm not saying the Steelers will struggle next year. But everyone was all excited about how young and innovative Sean Payton and Eric Mangini were last year, and now...

Redskin Warrior · 12-05-2007, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I really doubt the Cowboys would let Garrett go to a division rival (although there was that rumor last month about going to the Giants).

Anyhow, I think we need to keep some semblance of continuity. Now I'm not saying the Steelers will struggle next year. But everyone was all excited about how young and innovative Sean Payton and Eric Mangini were last year, and now...

You are probably right but you know Billion Dollar Dan he can sure make some offers people can't refuse. But I do feel before the playoffs Garrett will have a new contract.

TrustinGibbs · 12-05-2007, 01:02 AM

I voted Grimm. He's a well respected assistant who has paid his dues on more then one team and been succesful. He's also a Redskin. I like the idea of hiring the NEXT great Football coach. He's out there on somebodies staff. That is exactly what Bobby Beatherd and Jack Kent Cooke did when they hired Joe Gibbs.

G.Williams might be one of those guys who is a great coordinater but not a good head coach. He'll get another shot I just dont know if this is the right situation.

Cowher is a great coach, no doubt about it and I wouldn't mind him but it seems like Snyder keeps hiring "name guys" who dont work out here. Maybe it's time to go in another direction....if coach Gibbs wants to leave the sidelines.

SBXVII · 12-05-2007, 01:53 AM

I've been thinking Cowher, but you know I almost would like to see Al's offense finally open up. I do belive Gibbs has limited him. I used to like Williams but recently I have soured on him because I belive he has a good defensive style but if he does not have all the pieces his defense sputters as we are witnessing. Probubly cause of over paid first stringers...I don't know. I do belive that if Cowher came on board he would change the whole coaching from top to bottom. That might be a good thing but I really would like to see the Skins scoring like the Patriots or Dallas. I like to think we are simply a few players short of a scoring machine. All it took for the Pats was a tall WR. Who's also talented. I'm just not seeing Williams making major changes during half time to confuse the other teams or make them attempt to adjust during the second half. He simply belives my scheme works and I'm not changing it whether we win or lose.

View Poll Results: If Gibbs Doesn't Return, Who Should Be the Head Coach?
Bill Cowher	60	30.00%
Russ Grimm	45	22.50%
Al Saunders	9	4.50%
Gregg Williams	68	34.00%
Other (tell us who)	18	9.00%
Voters: 200. You may not vote on this poll

12-04-2007, 04:58 PM	#136
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? Instead of hiring Cowher, why not just hire Dick Lebeau? Isn't he the real genius behind their defensive culture? You can hire any damn fool to scream and make faces. Plus, Lebeau is in his 70s (I think) so it will piss off all the right people in this forum. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

12-04-2007, 05:11 PM	#138
Stacks42 Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arlington Va. Age: 48 Posts: 835	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? Anyways.... I think GW should takeover for Gibbs, keep Saunders as the O coach if he will stay. They players respect GW, and he is a great leader. __________________ The NEXT special teams coordinator

12-04-2007, 05:13 PM	#139
rotahe39 Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Springfield Age: 37 Posts: 17	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? Bring back Marty....we went 8-8 with Tony Banks as our quarterback....imagine what he could do with Campbell and that defense __________________ Score one for the good guys

12-04-2007, 06:20 PM	#141
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? Hey Jack Pardee is still sought after and available (maybe) ESPN - Houston contacts Pardee about coaching job - College Football

12-04-2007, 06:43 PM	#142
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,988	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? Ok ,don't ever say I didn't work with you guys.You guys(Skins) take Coughlin and we'll take Gibbs!!!!!!!!

12-05-2007, 01:02 AM	#149
TrustinGibbs Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wilmington, NC Age: 60 Posts: 104	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? I voted Grimm. He's a well respected assistant who has paid his dues on more then one team and been succesful. He's also a Redskin. I like the idea of hiring the NEXT great Football coach. He's out there on somebodies staff. That is exactly what Bobby Beatherd and Jack Kent Cooke did when they hired Joe Gibbs. G.Williams might be one of those guys who is a great coordinater but not a good head coach. He'll get another shot I just dont know if this is the right situation. Cowher is a great coach, no doubt about it and I wouldn't mind him but it seems like Snyder keeps hiring "name guys" who dont work out here. Maybe it's time to go in another direction....if coach Gibbs wants to leave the sidelines.

12-05-2007, 01:53 AM	#150
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? I've been thinking Cowher, but you know I almost would like to see Al's offense finally open up. I do belive Gibbs has limited him. I used to like Williams but recently I have soured on him because I belive he has a good defensive style but if he does not have all the pieces his defense sputters as we are witnessing. Probubly cause of over paid first stringers...I don't know. I do belive that if Cowher came on board he would change the whole coaching from top to bottom. That might be a good thing but I really would like to see the Skins scoring like the Patriots or Dallas. I like to think we are simply a few players short of a scoring machine. All it took for the Pats was a tall WR. Who's also talented. I'm just not seeing Williams making major changes during half time to confuse the other teams or make them attempt to adjust during the second half. He simply belives my scheme works and I'm not changing it whether we win or lose.

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