Do you expect Zorn to be fired

Hog1 · 10-12-2009, 12:13 PM

Firing JZ is NOT the answer. To do that and hire another coach by the same people that hired Zorn in the first place just invites more of the same.
And BTW, it ain't Zorn's fault. He was put in a position by VC, and Dan that is more than he is equipped..."today" to deal with. It should be fairly apparent by now neither Dan, or Vinnie were qualified to do so.
What we DO need to do is hire a "Hot shoe" GM and dump it ALL on him. That is what they do. He would have plenty of time to evaluate what we have, and what we need...coaches, players, scouts, etc. There is also time to see what coaches are available, as there appears to be numerous candidates.
AND DANfinger (see Bond, James Bond...circa 1960ish) can have VC carry his clubs, and maybe he can get on of those cool steal lined hats, like that Asian guy and...well you get the idea........HTTR

SmootSmack · 10-12-2009, 12:18 PM

There are some things that are Zorn's fault though. Case in point...calling timeout on 4th down and justifying it by saying "well we weren't sure where they were going to spot it. Would it be 4th and 2, 4th and 5, 4th and 7." That's weak. Even if the spot is questionable, it's never a matter of 5 yards. That's ridiculous

GTripp0012 · 10-12-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There are some things that are Zorn's fault though. Case in point...calling timeout on 4th down and justifying it by saying "well we weren't sure where they were going to spot it. Would it be 4th and 2, 4th and 5, 4th and 7." That's weak. Even if the spot is questionable, it's never a matter of 5 yards. That's ridiculous

I thought the slant to Moss was a great call though, but Campbell tried to throw while moving his front foot laterally. Just stand up and throw it.

CultBrennan59 · 10-12-2009, 12:29 PM

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I thought the slant to Moss was a great call though, but Campbell tried to throw while moving his front foot laterally. Just stand up and throw it.

just another common jason campbell mistake...and people here think he's a good QB

GTripp0012 · 10-12-2009, 12:37 PM

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just another common jason campbell mistake...and people here think he's a good QB

People also think Aaron Rodgers is a good QB. People also think Colt Brennan is a good QB.

It's all a matter of perception, to a reasonable extent.

hooskins · 10-12-2009, 12:39 PM

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People also think Aaron Rodgers is a good QB. People also think Colt Brennan is a good QB.

It's all a matter of perception, to a reasonable extent.

lol.

Hog1 · 10-12-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There are some things that are Zorn's fault though. Case in point...calling timeout on 4th down and justifying it by saying "well we weren't sure where they were going to spot it. Would it be 4th and 2, 4th and 5, 4th and 7." That's weak. Even if the spot is questionable, it's never a matter of 5 yards. That's ridiculous

I'm not saying Zorn hasn't done some...ridiculous things...time mgmt...play calling....etc.
BUT, he should NEVER have been in this position in the first place and a competant GM would never have put him there. He may make a great HC some day, but it was obviously premature for this year?

CRedskinsRule · 10-12-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There are some things that are Zorn's fault though. Case in point...calling timeout on 4th down and justifying it by saying "well we weren't sure where they were going to spot it. Would it be 4th and 2, 4th and 5, 4th and 7." That's weak. Even if the spot is questionable, it's never a matter of 5 yards. That's ridiculous

The other part of this, is it makes me never has 2 plays called. If he can't give JC a play if it's less than 2, and a play if it's more than 2 than that's a huge fail anyways. I think that's why Campbell did better when he is running the 2 minuted drill, he was calling on his own and prepping the huddle based on what might happen.

tryfuhl · 10-12-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There are some things that are Zorn's fault though. Case in point...calling timeout on 4th down and justifying it by saying "well we weren't sure where they were going to spot it. Would it be 4th and 2, 4th and 5, 4th and 7." That's weak. Even if the spot is questionable, it's never a matter of 5 yards. That's ridiculous

Hell let JC call that one. He knows what he can hit, kinda

Hog1 · 10-12-2009, 12:41 PM

Jason is (to date) an average qb that COULD rise to greatness with the right support around him like great protection, running game, recievers consistently opening up, etc.
---See Mark Rypien
He does not have those things to cover his....average-ness

SmootSmack · 10-12-2009, 12:46 PM

Some interesting comments by the reporters and some Redskins staffers following Zorn's press conference today

"He looks like he wants to cry"

'Dead man walking"

"Don't have this kind of pressure as a QB coach in Seattle"

"This is more depressing to watch than the game"

"Snyder needs to put him out of misery"

GhettoDogAllStars · 10-13-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Some interesting comments by the reporters and some Redskins staffers following Zorn's press conference today

"He looks like he wants to cry"

'Dead man walking"

"Don't have this kind of pressure as a QB coach in Seattle"

"This is more depressing to watch than the game"

"Snyder needs to put him out of misery"

I can't help but feel bad for Zorn, but he's clearly out of his league. And, I'd gladly be ripped to pieces by the media and the community to coach just one game for the Redskins.

CRedskinsRule · 10-13-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I can't help but feel bad for Zorn, but he's clearly out of his league. And, I'd gladly be ripped to pieces by the media and the community to coach just one game for the Redskins.

but GD we know you have no ego to get in the way, so all would be good on that front

MTK · 10-13-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I can't help but feel bad for Zorn, but he's clearly out of his league. And, I'd gladly be ripped to pieces by the media and the community to coach just one game for the Redskins.

I feel bad for him too, he's definitely in over his head. Looking back I think he took on too much, too soon. He went from QB coach in Seattle to head coach/offensive coordinator/QB coach with the Skins. That's a heck of a leap. Couple that with a front office without a solid plan in place and it spells disaster. He was set up for failure from day 1. He would have been better off as OC only with an experienced HC above him to work with.

Hijinx · 10-13-2009, 11:46 PM

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I feel bad for him too, he's definitely in over his head. Looking back I think he took on too much, too soon. He went from QB coach in Seattle to head coach/offensive coordinator/QB coach with the Skins. That's a heck of a leap. Couple that with a front office without a solid plan in place and it spells disaster. He was set up for failure from day 1. He would have been better off as OC only with an experienced HC above him to work with.

Not only that but all the hoopla and craziness involved with that month long Head coach search. I started to think we would draft before we had a head coach. Plus he was hired first to be OC and then got the HC job, it was a shocker. Zorn has always felt like a temp head coach from day 1. I think that hurt him from the start.

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10-12-2009, 12:13 PM	#1
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Firing JZ is NOT the answer. To do that and hire another coach by the same people that hired Zorn in the first place just invites more of the same. And BTW, it ain't Zorn's fault. He was put in a position by VC, and Dan that is more than he is equipped..."today" to deal with. It should be fairly apparent by now neither Dan, or Vinnie were qualified to do so. What we DO need to do is hire a "Hot shoe" GM and dump it ALL on him. That is what they do. He would have plenty of time to evaluate what we have, and what we need...coaches, players, scouts, etc. There is also time to see what coaches are available, as there appears to be numerous candidates. AND DANfinger (see Bond, James Bond...circa 1960ish) can have VC carry his clubs, and maybe he can get on of those cool steal lined hats, like that Asian guy and...well you get the idea........HTTR __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-12-2009, 12:18 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired There are some things that are Zorn's fault though. Case in point...calling timeout on 4th down and justifying it by saying "well we weren't sure where they were going to spot it. Would it be 4th and 2, 4th and 5, 4th and 7." That's weak. Even if the spot is questionable, it's never a matter of 5 yards. That's ridiculous __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-12-2009, 12:41 PM	#10
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Jason is (to date) an average qb that COULD rise to greatness with the right support around him like great protection, running game, recievers consistently opening up, etc. ---See Mark Rypien He does not have those things to cover his....average-ness __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-12-2009, 12:46 PM	#11
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Some interesting comments by the reporters and some Redskins staffers following Zorn's press conference today "He looks like he wants to cry" 'Dead man walking" "Don't have this kind of pressure as a QB coach in Seattle" "This is more depressing to watch than the game" "Snyder needs to put him out of misery" __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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