At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

Dirtbag59 · 03-27-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I haven't heard of any interest

So I guess that means he's not one of the 4 or 5 QB's Shanahan plans on scouting in person.

SmootSmack · 03-27-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

So I guess that means he's not one of the 4 or 5 QB's Shanahan plans on scouting in person.

Well he could be, not sure

53Fan · 03-27-2010, 03:03 PM

The only QB worth trading up for in the first round is Bradford IMO. I think he's head and shoulders above the rest. Though if someone wanted to trade up with us for Clausen...that would be great.

tootergray34 · 03-27-2010, 11:27 PM

what Clausen were you watching? my goodness..the kid has a rocket, and he didn't have crap for an O Line...remind you of a certain line in the NFL? It should. He played through injury so the toughness is there...I only wish his wonderlic test scores were higher...

tootergray34 · 03-27-2010, 11:30 PM

I'm telling you guys....look no further...

WalterFootball.com

it explains it all. Better prospect...durable and can make all the throws. You guys are just biased towards your college teams. I'm a florida fan but do I want us to take tebow? heck no. I promise you if we get clausen we are SET! But people will just call me an idiot till he blows it up for us...

tootergray34 · 03-27-2010, 11:32 PM

per walterfootball.com

MARCH 23 UPDATE: If you haven't seen it yet, here's our exclusive Jimmy Clausen interview and an article called Jimmy Clausen is an Alien Wizard, which discusses why the hatred and bias against Clausen is completely unfounded.

MARCH 16 UPDATE: Ever since the Colts had the league change the contact rules, the NFL has become a pass-first, quarterback-driven league. Nine of the 12 quarterbacks who made the playoffs were chosen with the No. 33 overall pick or earlier, and the three exceptions were Kurt Warner, Tom Brady and Tony Romo. To win consistently in the NFL, you need a franchise quarterback.

This is why the New Regimes Mean New Quarterbacks belief is more paramount than ever. Does Mike Shanahan see Jason Campbell as his quarterback of the future? I don't think so; though Campbell hasn't had much help in Washington, he's been inconsistent and pretty mediocre. He's also a poor fit for Shanahan's offense. Even if the Redskins tender Campbell and keep him for a year - which will probably happen - there's a good chance this selection will be used on a signal-caller.

Unlike Campbell, Jimmy Clausen is a good fit in Shanahan's offense. Clausen has been accused by biased media members of being arrogant. Jay Cutler was another arrogant quarterback, and that didn't stop Shanahan from drafting him back in 2006. Meanwhile, Daniel Snyder loves big names, and would undoubtedly sign off on Clausen.

For more, Matt listed five reasons why the Redskins won't pass on Jimmy Clausen.

Dirtbag59 · 03-27-2010, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tootergray34

per walterfootball.com

MARCH 23 UPDATE: If you haven't seen it yet, here's our exclusive Jimmy Clausen interview and an article called Jimmy Clausen is an Alien Wizard, which discusses why the hatred and bias against Clausen is completely unfounded.

MARCH 16 UPDATE: Ever since the Colts had the league change the contact rules, the NFL has become a pass-first, quarterback-driven league. Nine of the 12 quarterbacks who made the playoffs were chosen with the No. 33 overall pick or earlier, and the three exceptions were Kurt Warner, Tom Brady and Tony Romo. To win consistently in the NFL, you need a franchise quarterback.

This is why the New Regimes Mean New Quarterbacks belief is more paramount than ever. Does Mike Shanahan see Jason Campbell as his quarterback of the future? I don't think so; though Campbell hasn't had much help in Washington, he's been inconsistent and pretty mediocre. He's also a poor fit for Shanahan's offense. Even if the Redskins tender Campbell and keep him for a year - which will probably happen - there's a good chance this selection will be used on a signal-caller.

Unlike Campbell, Jimmy Clausen is a good fit in Shanahan's offense. Clausen has been accused by biased media members of being arrogant. Jay Cutler was another arrogant quarterback, and that didn't stop Shanahan from drafting him back in 2006. Meanwhile, Daniel Snyder loves big names, and would undoubtedly sign off on Clausen.

For more, Matt listed five reasons why the Redskins won't pass on Jimmy Clausen.

Why is it that the media keeps making it sound like Snyder has to sign off on football related decisions? I mean short of Allen and Shanahan telling Dan that they're going to use the 4th overall pick to select Tony Pike, Jason Fox, or trade for Antrell Rolle then I doubt we see Snyder needing to sign off on anything.

I know that it's difficult to follow all 32 teams and know the ins and outs of every team but the media should know by now that the one football decision Snyder ever needed to sign off on was the hiring of Allen. After that everything else virtually fell into place.

Pocket$ $traight · 03-28-2010, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Why is it that the media keeps making it sound like Snyder has to sign off on football related decisions? I mean short of Allen and Shanahan telling Dan that they're going to use the 4th overall pick to select Tony Pike, Jason Fox, or trade for Antrell Rolle then I doubt we see Snyder needing to sign off on anything.

I know that it's difficult to follow all 32 teams and know the ins and outs of every team but the media should know by now that the one football decision Snyder ever needed to sign off on was the hiring of Allen. After that everything else virtually fell into place.

Honestly, I am in the camp that Snyder's activities were diminishing before this year. Right now, I don't think he is involved in any football related decision.

If Bradford, Clausen or Tebow are taken in the draft, I don't think he had any input on it.

GMScud · 03-28-2010, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Honestly, I am in the camp that Snyder's activities were diminishing before this year. Right now, I don't think he is involved in any football related decision.

If Bradford, Clausen or Tebow are taken in the draft, I don't think he had any input on it.

Agreed. I'm pretty sure Allen and Shanahan wouldn't have accepted their positions without some sort of firm assurance of autonomy. I have no idea what the legalese looks like in the contracts of GM's and HC's in the NFL, but I'm hoping they both have some sort of "back the eff off" clause with regard to Snyder.

Lotus · 03-28-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Why is it that the media keeps making it sound like Snyder has to sign off on football related decisions? I mean short of Allen and Shanahan telling Dan that they're going to use the 4th overall pick to select Tony Pike, Jason Fox, or trade for Antrell Rolle then I doubt we see Snyder needing to sign off on anything.

I know that it's difficult to follow all 32 teams and know the ins and outs of every team but the media should know by now that the one football decision Snyder ever needed to sign off on was the hiring of Allen. After that everything else virtually fell into place.

I am annoyed by the same thing. That said, I think Snyder needs to develop a long and clear track record of not being involved for such talk to go away. Given that it is difficult to establish a track record of not doing such things, I think we sadly will read comments like this for some time.

SmootSmack · 03-28-2010, 12:25 AM

"The media" is such a vague, general term....that said I'm not sure I would consider Walter of Walterfootball.com fame "the media". He's a dude with a mock draft

skins89moss · 03-28-2010, 06:15 AM

We have 5 picks in the entire draft this year. This puts us behind the 8 ball. We have no business trying to move up to aquire any player due to our lack of picks. Oh what you want to give up a pick for next years draft, why do this. We have needs at OL, LB, RB, QB. If I had to pick any of the QB's to take with our 4th pick I would not take any QB. I would take 1.Okung 2.Suh 3. Trent Williams 4. try to trade down for more picks. Im not sure we should even take a QB with the 2nd pick due to not having a 3rd pick. If we can trade a veteran player on our roster for a 3rd rd pick then I could see us using a pick on the best available QB in the 2nd round. We are up a creek with only 5 picks people, we must stop throwing our draft picks away.

SBXVII · 03-28-2010, 11:56 AM

I found this to be pretty intersting especially for those wanting a QB in the second round or beyond......

OK those that feel like we should draft an OL over a QB at #4 - interesting stuff regarding QBs and the Draft - EXTREMESKINS.com

GTripp0012 · 03-28-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

I found this to be pretty intersting especially for those wanting a QB in the second round or beyond......

OK those that feel like we should draft an OL over a QB at #4 - interesting stuff regarding QBs and the Draft - EXTREMESKINS.com

I liked this tongue in cheek summation:

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Originally Posted by Gibby

The solution is simple draft Tebow with the #4 pick that way he can't be a second round bust and will be a super bowl champion!

Which is really the point. If high draft position is what makes the player, and not the other way around, then why the heck would anyone pass on Tebow in the top five?

tootergray34 · 03-28-2010, 01:06 PM

No, Walter doesn't just run a football site, he also go's to the combine, he go's to the senior bowl pracitces and games. He talks and interviews with the players...he's got a lot more insight than you think. And when he say's somebody is a can't miss prosepect...he's usually spot on.

03-27-2010, 03:03 PM	#3
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen? The only QB worth trading up for in the first round is Bradford IMO. I think he's head and shoulders above the rest. Though if someone wanted to trade up with us for Clausen...that would be great. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

03-27-2010, 11:30 PM	#5
tootergray34 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 681	Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen? I'm telling you guys....look no further... WalterFootball.com it explains it all. Better prospect...durable and can make all the throws. You guys are just biased towards your college teams. I'm a florida fan but do I want us to take tebow? heck no. I promise you if we get clausen we are SET! But people will just call me an idiot till he blows it up for us...

03-27-2010, 11:32 PM	#6
tootergray34 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 681	Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen? per walterfootball.com MARCH 23 UPDATE: If you haven't seen it yet, here's our exclusive Jimmy Clausen interview and an article called Jimmy Clausen is an Alien Wizard, which discusses why the hatred and bias against Clausen is completely unfounded. MARCH 16 UPDATE: Ever since the Colts had the league change the contact rules, the NFL has become a pass-first, quarterback-driven league. Nine of the 12 quarterbacks who made the playoffs were chosen with the No. 33 overall pick or earlier, and the three exceptions were Kurt Warner, Tom Brady and Tony Romo. To win consistently in the NFL, you need a franchise quarterback. This is why the New Regimes Mean New Quarterbacks belief is more paramount than ever. Does Mike Shanahan see Jason Campbell as his quarterback of the future? I don't think so; though Campbell hasn't had much help in Washington, he's been inconsistent and pretty mediocre. He's also a poor fit for Shanahan's offense. Even if the Redskins tender Campbell and keep him for a year - which will probably happen - there's a good chance this selection will be used on a signal-caller. Unlike Campbell, Jimmy Clausen is a good fit in Shanahan's offense. Clausen has been accused by biased media members of being arrogant. Jay Cutler was another arrogant quarterback, and that didn't stop Shanahan from drafting him back in 2006. Meanwhile, Daniel Snyder loves big names, and would undoubtedly sign off on Clausen. For more, Matt listed five reasons why the Redskins won't pass on Jimmy Clausen.

03-28-2010, 12:25 AM	#11
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen? "The media" is such a vague, general term....that said I'm not sure I would consider Walter of Walterfootball.com fame "the media". He's a dude with a mock draft __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-28-2010, 06:15 AM	#12
skins89moss Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,634	Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen? We have 5 picks in the entire draft this year. This puts us behind the 8 ball. We have no business trying to move up to aquire any player due to our lack of picks. Oh what you want to give up a pick for next years draft, why do this. We have needs at OL, LB, RB, QB. If I had to pick any of the QB's to take with our 4th pick I would not take any QB. I would take 1.Okung 2.Suh 3. Trent Williams 4. try to trade down for more picks. Im not sure we should even take a QB with the 2nd pick due to not having a 3rd pick. If we can trade a veteran player on our roster for a 3rd rd pick then I could see us using a pick on the best available QB in the 2nd round. We are up a creek with only 5 picks people, we must stop throwing our draft picks away. __________________ www.islandstyleflowers.com Home of the Hawaiian Foam Flowers and Kukui Nut Leis. Great selections and best prices. Redskins Fan Since 1972

03-27-2010, 11:27 PM	#4
tootergray34 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 681	Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen? what Clausen were you watching? my goodness..the kid has a rocket, and he didn't have crap for an O Line...remind you of a certain line in the NFL? It should. He played through injury so the toughness is there...I only wish his wonderlic test scores were higher...

03-28-2010, 11:56 AM	#13
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen? I found this to be pretty intersting especially for those wanting a QB in the second round or beyond...... OK those that feel like we should draft an OL over a QB at #4 - interesting stuff regarding QBs and the Draft - EXTREMESKINS.com

03-28-2010, 01:06 PM	#15
tootergray34 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 681	Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen? No, Walter doesn't just run a football site, he also go's to the combine, he go's to the senior bowl pracitces and games. He talks and interviews with the players...he's got a lot more insight than you think. And when he say's somebody is a can't miss prosepect...he's usually spot on.

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