2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Strong pro day for Colt McCoy today 60 for 60 on his throws, showed good accuracy and mobility, and threw every pass from under center (none out of the shotgun)

Love It!!!! This is the guy I want in the 2nd Round!!!!!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

T Adam Ulatoski (6-6, 302) ran 4.58 and 4.56 in the 40.

I'm always skeptical of pro day speeds on college campuses. I think it's Penn State that's notorious for having their players run the 40 on a sloped field.

Ulatoski ran something like a 5.5 at the combine

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Strong pro day for Colt McCoy today 60 for 60 on his throws, showed good accuracy and mobility, and threw every pass from under center (none out of the shotgun)

Any word on who was there from the Skins?

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm always skeptical of pro day speeds on college campuses. I think it's Penn State that's notorious for having their players run the 40 on a sloped field
Ulatoski ran something like a 5.5 at the combine

Yeah i never thought about that, they probably dropped him from a helicopter.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Any word on who was there from the Skins?

Don't know

[CultBrennan59]

CB Deon Beasley (5-foot-9 5/8, 180 pounds) ran 4.47 and 4.46 in the 40-yard dash.

DT Lamarr Houston (6-2 7/8, 300) will keep his 40 times from the combine.

LB Sergio Kindle (6-2 7/8, 249) will keep his 40 times from the combine.

WR Jordan Shipley (5-11 1/2, 187) ran 4.54 and 4.56 in the 40. (Side note: When asked about Shipley’s performance, Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan said, tongue in cheek, “I don’t like him, because he’s doing everything here that I had hoped to do.” Shanahan played 24 games at Texas as a wide receiver.

G Charlie Tanner (6-3 7/8, 305) ran 5.20 and 5.12 in the 40.

T Adam Ulatoski (6-6, 302) ran 5.58 and 5.56 in the 40.

LB Roddrick Muckelroy (6-1 5/8, 234) ran 4.73 and 4.75 in the 40.

Editor’s note: We reported earlier that Ulatoski’s 40-yard dash times were 4.58 and 4.56. However, those times were incorrect.

– Gil Brandt

[SmootSmack]

That aligns much closer with his 5.5 combine 40

[CultBrennan59]

Kyle Shanahan was in attendance today at texas's pro day

[CultBrennan59]

Terrence Cody has a visit to the redskins coming up

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Love It!!!! This is the guy I want in the 2nd Round!!!!!

I keep on getting the feeling that McCoy won't be around when we pick in the second round. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns either traded back into the first (deja vu anyone?) or used the layoff from day 1 to day 2 to trade with someone in front of us. Very interested though in finding how McCoy would hypothetically fit into a Shanahan system. It seems that he prefers strong armed QB's that can be groomed and in that respect I think Tebow fits the profile better. Then again I thought that Shanahan would never sign a lineman weighing more then 315.

At the same time McCoy has great intangibles, though they seem to be overshadowed by the fact that Tebow is in this draft. Any other year though he would easily be the highest rated QB in terms of intangibles.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I keep on getting the feeling that McCoy won't be around when we pick in the second round. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns either traded back into the first (deja vu anyone?) or used the layoff from day 1 to day 2 to trade with someone in front of us. Very interested though in finding how McCoy would hypothetically fit into a Shanahan system. It seems that he prefers strong armed QB's that can be groomed and in that respect I think Tebow fits the profile better. Then again I thought that Shanahan would never sign a lineman weighing more then 315.

I dunno. Kyle was able to make it work with Schaub, who didn't really have a rocket arm. Colt's mobility will help him though, especially if Mike wants some of his offense installed.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

I dunno. Kyle was able to make it work with Schaub, who didn't really have a rocket arm. Colt's mobility will help him though, especially if Mike wants some of his offense installed.

Schuab still has a strong arm. McCoy on the other hand seems average at best in terms of arm strength but then again thats just me. Like I've said before, I'm obviously not a scout.

[The Goat]

Does anybody realistically expect Okung to fall to us? Both Detroit and Tampa need youth at LT and he's the best in the draft. And at 306 lbs he moves very well and shows the ability to play in just about any scheme (though it sounds like he'll be best suited for zone-blocking).

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Does anybody realistically expect Okung to fall to us? Both Detroit and Tampa need youth at LT and he's the best in the draft. And at 306 lbs he moves very well and shows the ability to play in just about any scheme (though it sounds like he'll be best suited for zone-blocking).

Tampa is in the same boat as St. Louis in that they've spent a lot of early picks on their line, or in Tampa's case the O-Line. Trueblood and Penn are one of the better pair of bookends in the league. They also have Davin Joesph, Jeff Faine, and Jeremy Zutah on the interior. If anything what they really seem to want now is a difference maker on the D-Line. Someone that can bring the same sort of level of play to the defense that Warren Sapp brought for all those years.

Detroit on the other hand as far as Tackle is concerned has a reliable type in Jeff Backus and a recent first round pick invested in Gosder Cherillus. They also have a head coach in Swartz who saw first hand what a guy like Albert Haynesworth can do for a defense. Of course maybe they want better protection for Stafford but it's certainly possible that they could pass on Okung. On the other hand I don't see Tampa really considering him at all.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Does anybody realistically expect Okung to fall to us? Both Detroit and Tampa need youth at LT and he's the best in the draft. And at 306 lbs he moves very well and shows the ability to play in just about any scheme (though it sounds like he'll be best suited for zone-blocking).

Tampa definitely will take a DT, or trade down, but there is no way they leave this draft without a stud DT. Detroit does have a need to get younger, but not a dire need. Their LT has started every game for 9 years, and is still serviceable. What they NEED is interior linemen. And there will be very good ones in the 2nd round. But there won't be a stud DT like Suh or McCoy, and Schwartz knows what a stud DT can do in his system. The Most likely way for Okung to be gone is if the Rams don't take Bradford, in which case a spot opens up for some strange things and maybe Okung and Bradford disappear. As it stands now the top 4 picks in order will most probably be
Bradford
McCoy (or Suh, but McCoy is has been more consistent so I think he goes here)
Suh
Okung

I think the time lag between the combine and draft just makes the talking heads have to fill up space with all the various combinations, but Detroit and Tampa both need and understand the need for an impact player at DT.