Haynesworth is Behaving Selfishly

[hooskins]

Well SS33 I guess thats the place where we will have to agree to disagree.

I really think 3 days dont matter, and wont really help the team work and communicate that much better. Teammates can be a bit frustrated working all day, rather than being at home and carry that frustration to a reporter via selected quotes. That doesnt mean, like Cooley said, that he wont come here and ball.

No one will care then.

[SmootSmack]

Occam's Razor

[over the mountain]

well, as a great cartoon once said, theres more than meets the eye.

while right now AH's biggest indictment is his decision to work out on his own, i did read a wash po article yesterday where it talked about how at a practice towards last seasons end AH stopped practicing b/c he said he had a hurt ankle. other players said that same day they were practicing with torn tendons and 3 cracked ribs.

those kind of things add up.

and he was dismissed from team practice last year for showing up late. i wonder how much the decision to send AH home that day was due to isolated incident of being late or the teams culmination of frustration with his perceived laziness and lack of dedication throughout that year.

last year SS you said there was no proof that snyder was meddling and that you know he is not. then it comes out that snyder was meeting with the HC every friday before games and having weekly lunchs with AH. (i dont not want to rehas a DS argument here, he has by all accounts stopped doing what he was doing, even allen said those lunches are not going to happen again)

My point is it is my opinion that the skins FO is frustrated and disappointed with AH for more than just his decision to work out on his own.

just like snyder's meddling, we dont get all the info at once and i imagine efforts are made to not have negative info come out.

we are getting little droplets of info here and there and the bucket is filling fast.

credskins -well put on that post a page or so back.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

well, as a great cartoon once said, theres more than meets the eye.

while right now AH's biggest indictment is his decision to work out on his own, i did read a wash po article yesterday where it talked about how at a practice towards last seasons end AH stopped practicing b/c he said he had a hurt ankle. other players said that same day they were practicing with torn tendons and 3 cracked ribs.

those kind of things add up.

and he was dismissed from team practice last year for showing up late. i wonder how much the decision to send AH home that day was due to isolated incident of being late or the teams culmination of frustration with his perceived laziness and lack of dedication throughout that year.

last year SS you said there was no proof that snyder was meddling and that you know he is not. then it comes out that snyder was meeting with the HC every friday before games and having weekly lunchs with AH. (i dont not want to rehas a DS argument here, he has by all accounts stopped doing what he was doing, even allen said those lunches are not going to happen again)

My point is it is my opinion that the skins FO is frustrated and disappointed with AH for more than just his decision to work out on his own.

just like snyder's meddling, we dont get all the info at once and i imagine efforts are made to not have negative info come out.

we are getting little droplets of info here and there and the bucket is filling fast.

credskins -well put on that post a page or so back.

just another example of why we can't take the reports we hear at face value. whether its "pro-" or "anti-haynesworth." with an isolated incident, it makese sense to give someone the benefit of the doubt and believe what they say. however, when a person is saying one thing, but it doesn't fit the overall picture, you have to question what you hear. its entirely possible that Haynesworth is truly happy and excited about the 3-4, is ready to do whatever the coaches ask, and is staying in tennessee because he wants to be with his family and his personal trainer told him his entire offseason of work would be ruined by attending a 3-day minicamp. yeah. uh-huh.

[mlmdub130]

how in the f did this god damn thread make it to 11 pages?????????

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

how in the f did this god damn thread make it to 11 pages?????????

Because on a daily basis the NFL Network (JLC) and ESPN keep trying to increase their viewership/ratings numbers by creating sensationalistic stories through rumors.
I was astounded a couple of days ago on ESPN TV with a segment lead line that said, "Disgruntled Albert Haynesworth who is rumored to be forcing a trade......" I was floored that this was the first sentence lead in to a segment and it was being reported as fact Then several minutes later into the story comes the disclaimer...'well AH might not be disgruntled and this is rumor and hearsay.' WTF kind of news reporting is this? National Enquirer.
Then guys here on the Warpath swallow it hook line and sinker as fact.
The other example that made me laugh was Jason LaConfora on NFL Newtwork last week. He was on a panel discussing their biggest disappointments of the draft, of course JLC said with a very sour look on his face, 'my biggest disappointment was the Redskins really blew it by not trading trouble maker Haynesworth for a 2nd or 3rd round pick." LOL!
What GM in his right mind would trade a top 5 DT in the NFL for a 2nd or 3rd. Especially when 2nd and 3rd overall picks in the same draft were unproven DT's that play with the same type of disruptive force. So JLC want us to give up a proven top 5 DT in the NFL for a third round pick? That is stupid.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Because on a daily basis the NFL Network (JLC) and ESPN keep trying to increase their viewership/ratings numbers by creating sensationalistic stories through rumors.
I was astounded a couple of days ago on ESPN TV with a segment lead line that said, "Disgruntled Albert Haynesworth who is rumored to be forcing a trade......" I was floored that this was the first sentence lead in to a segment and it was being reported as fact Then several minutes later into the story comes the disclaimer...'well AH might not be disgruntled and this is rumor and hearsay.' WTF kind of news reporting is this? National Enquirer.
Then guys here on the Warpath swallow it hook line and sinker as fact.
The other example that made me laugh was Jason LaConfora on NFL Newtwork last week. He was on a panel discussing their biggest disappointments of the draft, of course JLC said with a very sour look on his face, 'my biggest disappointment was the Redskins really blew it by not trading trouble maker Haynesworth for a 2nd or 3rd round pick." LOL!
What GM in his right mind would trade a top 5 DT in the NFL for a 2nd or 3rd. Especially when 2nd and 3rd overall picks in the same draft were unproven DT's that play with the same type of disruptive force. So JLC want us to give up a proven top 5 DT in the NFL for a third round pick? That is stupid.

I like the examples you cite...... It just serves to further demonstrate what a farce sports journalism has become (or should I say "sports reporting"). With so many outlets providing information it has been reduced to "gossip" as opposed to responsible journalism.

[JLee9718]

Albert will be rolling on the field out of breath just one time under Shanahan and he'll be benched! As he should be! I hate it when the 'Skins make such stupid deals in signing free agents.

[NYCskinfan82]

The blew him up on the Jim Rome's show "ROME IS BURNING".

[over the mountain]

I think ive come full circle on this whole haynesworth thing thats been bothering me.

He and his agent tried to fleece us for over 32 mil for 13 months then go on to another team and sign another big contract.

But he didnt get traded.

Its really quite beautiful. We only gotta pay his ass something like 3.2 mil this year and the next few years his contract is still in the 5-6 mil range.

So let him go on record saying hes working hard to get in shape, let his "making 3.2 million dollars a year" butt take off for involuntaries.

Shoot! that mofo is screwed. he bluffed, shanny and allen didnt take the bait.

it doesnt matter what he does, hes worth 3.2 mil and the headache.

[SmootSmack]

OTM-Didn't know Snyder was having lunch weekly with AH, just that he had an open door policy with him (as with all other players). I knew about the weekly lunches, didn't take that to be meddling per se though I thought it was kind of lame

But anyway, this isn't about DS

[SmootSmack]

And another thing, NFL sources saying they could see Haynesworth having no problem playing for the Vikings is NOT the same thing as Haynesworth telling close associates he want to play for the Vikings

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

And another thing, NFL sources saying they could see Haynesworth having no problem playing for the Vikings is NOT the same thing as Haynesworth telling close associates he want to play for the Vikings

I have no problem playing Center Fielder for the Yankees.

[Pocket$ $traight]

I am a Godzilla supporter but I have accepted him for what he is, a selfish player and bad teammate. He is what he is. So people can complain that he is worthless and out of shape and rolls on the field blah blah blah. The bottom line is he is the most talented player on the team and the Redskins are better when he is playing. Yes he was out of shape last year (although I have yet to see a 350 pounder who is in shape...) but he did exactly what he was brought here to do.

You cannot blame Albert for the current situation. Every warning sign was there and the idiots who were running the team when he was signed (Snyder and Vinny....most likely in that order) structured his contract where the team had zero leverage. So this situation is exactly what they asked for. You don't blame the lion when he eats the trainer. So it is useless to blame Albert for what the Redskins made him.

I hope he is working hard and destroys everything in sight next year. He is not a leader, he is a terrible teammate and he has been paid to do whatever the eff he wants. Oh well, if he single handedly stops the Giants and Cowboys on 4th and 1 plays consistently, I could care less what the jealous fans and reporters say about him.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I am a Godzilla supporter but I have accepted him for what he is, a selfish player and bad teammate. He is what he is. So people can complain that he is worthless and out of shape and rolls on the field blah blah blah. The bottom line is he is the most talented player on the team and the Redskins are better when he is playing. Yes he was out of shape last year (although I have yet to see a 350 pounder who is in shape...) but he did exactly what he was brought here to do.

You cannot blame Albert for the current situation. Every warning sign was there and the idiots who were running the team when he was signed (Snyder and Vinny....most likely in that order) structured his contract where the team had zero leverage. So this situation is exactly what they asked for. You don't blame the lion when he eats the trainer. So it is useless to blame Albert for what the Redskins made him.

I hope he is working hard and destroys everything in sight next year. He is not a leader, he is a terrible teammate and he has been paid to do whatever the eff he wants. Oh well, if he single handedly stops the Giants and Cowboys on 4th and 1 plays consistently, I could care less what the jealous fans and reporters say about him.

Amen!