Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

[Giantone]

....If you watch the int you'll see it was more the RT bad attemt at a block then anything else.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Did Torain start with us as a rookie?

The point I was trying to make was these guys can change in the blink of an eye. If I told you last year that a healthy Torain would never break 3 yards per carry after the St. Louis game you would have told me I was crazy.

Helu and Royster are obviously promising, however their breakout games last year are no guarantee that they'll carry over to this year. Of course we'll probably draft another running back or two so I guess this is all a moot point if one of them falls off the map.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

The point I was trying to make was these guys can change in the blink of an eye. If I told you last year that a healthy Torain would never break 3 yards per carry after the St. Louis game you would have told me I was crazy.



Helu and Royster are obviously promising, however their breakout games last year are no guarantee that they'll carry over to this year. Of course we'll probably draft another running back or two so I guess this is all a moot point if one of them falls off the map.

Don't disrespect Roy Helu!! Seriously if he hadn't gotten hurt he could have easily cracked 1,000 yards rushing.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Don't disrespect Roy Helu!! Seriously if he hadn't gotten hurt he could have easily cracked 1,000 yards rushing.

And Torain was....on pace (sorry I hate that phrase) for 1,200 yards rushing in 2010

Still I now know this. When we bring in guys for visits we need them to bring their girlfriends, wives, or pictures of the chicks they've banged. Seeing how hot they are by western standards (which is graded on a curve) is vital in determining weather or not they will be useful.

I'm willing to bet that the drop in Torain's production came about from banging an ugo. We have scientific data to back this up.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

And Torain was....on pace (sorry I hate that phrase) for 1,200 yards rushing in 2010



Still I now know this. When we bring in guys for visits we need them to bring their girlfriends, wives, or pictures of the chicks they've banged. Seeing how hot they are by western standards (which is graded on a curve) is vital in determining weather or not they will be useful.



I'm willing to bet that the drop in Torain's production came about from banging an ugo. We have scientific data to back this up.

I agree 100% and with you being a doctor will gladly accept your donation for the upcoming election.

[MTK]

Maybe Torain's success here was a bit of an aberration to begin with?

I think our backfield looks pretty set with Helu and Royster, like to see Hightower back too.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I agree 100% and with you being a doctor will gladly accept your donation for the upcoming election.

Don't worry I'll take care of the money.

[GTripp0012]

Not a Griffin thread, but at least one system grades Robert Griffin out as the best prospect in the last 15 years. As in: better coming out than Manning.

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[mooby]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Not a Griffin thread, but at least one system grades Robert Griffin out as the best prospect in the last 15 years. As in: better coming out than Manning.

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | Lewin Career Forecast 2012

Does that mean you approve? I trust their opinion on the subject.

[Monkeydad]

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by donofriose

I agree but what I notice about the superbowl teams is what separates them from the rest is the depth that they have at a lot of positions. The best way to build depth is through the draft You can go after young free agents like a Mario Williams but what you don't want is to build a team where free agents are the main components. Every player on the packers offense was drafted. The ravens defense was almost entirely drafted. You build through the draft but you add key components through free agency. You sign under the radar guys or veterans that want to win a superbowl and are not in it for the money since they already have a lot. Signing one of the top free agents rarely works out unless they are in their mid 20's and even then it doesn't work out a lot of the time. Draft is less risky then free agency because of the money involved. Two D words that always go hand in hand Dynasty: Draft

Completely agree with everything youve said here and your post right before this one

Im completely against VJ. Hes turning 30, looking to get paid and has had off the field issues. Much rather build through the draft and sign guys that are looking to prove themselves, not just get paid. Save the big money deals for resigning players already on our team.

[REDSKINS4ever]

I just got through watching the Alamo Bowl between Baylor and Washington. RG3 really didn't do a lot in that game. Baylor had over 500 yards rushing in that game. RG3 passed for just over 300 yards and ran for over 100 yards. He was sacked quite a bit in that game. NFL teams will undoubtedly watch film of this game to undoubtedly find ways to stop Griffin and keep him in the pocket and pressure him. Like Michael Vick before him, all Griffin III needs to do is get outside of the pocket and turn up field. With his athletic ability, he can surely beat a spy LB or throw it to an open receiver on the run. It would seem that RG3 will create a lot of unwanted problems for even the best of NFL defenses.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I just got through watching the Alamo Bowl between Baylor and Washington. RG3 really didn't do a lot in that game. Baylor had over 500 yards rushing in that game. RG3 passed for just over 300 yards and ran for over 100 yards. He was sacked quite a bit in that game. NFL teams will undoubtedly watch film of this game to undoubtedly find ways to stop Griffin and keep him in the pocket and pressure him. Like Michael Vick before him, all Griffin III needs to do is get outside of the pocket and turn up field. With his athletic ability, he can surely beat a spy LB or throw it to an open receiver on the run. It would seem that RG3 will create a lot of unwanted problems for even the best of NFL defenses.

Watch Cam Newton against Oregon. Very similar game to RG3. Don't worry, its RG3 with bad players around him. Cam didn't exactly have great players around him at Auburn on Offense. Mike Vick, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Peyton manning, they all were stopped in college (some pretty often than the others).

[That Guy]

the biggest success metric from college to the pros is completion % and year over year completion % increase durnig college (unless its one of a few gimmick college passing systems).

starting at 60% and going to 73% is crazy good. his vick like speed isn't going to hurt either. and if you watch some clips, you'll see his long ball is accurate. so i don't doubt he could be great.

I don't think he's done a lot of work with small windows like he'll have in the NFL or throwing guys open, but we'll see how that goes soon enough...

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I just got through watching the Alamo Bowl between Baylor and Washington. RG3 really didn't do a lot in that game. Baylor had over 500 yards rushing in that game. RG3 passed for just over 300 yards and ran for over 100 yards. He was sacked quite a bit in that game. NFL teams will undoubtedly watch film of this game to undoubtedly find ways to stop Griffin and keep him in the pocket and pressure him. Like Michael Vick before him, all Griffin III needs to do is get outside of the pocket and turn up field. With his athletic ability, he can surely beat a spy LB or throw it to an open receiver on the run. It would seem that RG3 will create a lot of unwanted problems for even the best of NFL defenses.

so he turned in a 400 yard game and that's not much