Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Maybe. Or maybe I'm saying what if all three were here through 2015? One or two may be locked in longer

Any of them would be foolish to walk away anytime before this team gets its full compliment of draftpicks and capspace back. Do you smell what the Rock is cookin!?!

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Kyle Shanahan on coaching fast track with Redskins' malleability | News | NFL.com

Kyle a innovator? Pfft....dude is just holding this offense back.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Kyle a innovator? Pfft....dude is just holding this offense back.

..........word

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Maybe. Or maybe I'm saying what if all three were here through 2015? One or two may be locked in longer

I'll take a Kyle shanahan-rg3 combo as long as I can get. I would be stoked if we extended Kyle. I'd trade the playoffs this year for locking up Kyle throughout rg3s career in a heartbeat.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Any of them would be foolish to walk away anytime before this team gets its full compliment of draftpicks and capspace back. Do you smell what the Rock is cookin!?!

Sniffffffff.....Ahhhhhhhh, yea, I can smell it...

[Washiontonbadguy]

Nope

[BigHairedAristocrat]

On a related topic, when is Hasletts contract up? Given the lack of talent he's had to work with, i think he's done an exceptional job with the defense this season. he's due for an extension.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

On a related topic, when is Hasletts contract up? Given the lack of talent he's had to work with, i think he's done an exceptional job with the defense this season. he's due for an extension.

Redskins gave Jim Haslett a contract extension | ProFootballTalk

Coach Haz was given an extension back in September. It is believed to run through the 2013 season. He was obviously in the last year of his contract before the 2012 season began.

[SmootSmack]

From my understanding 2013 is not a guaranteed contract year for Haz

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Redskins gave Jim Haslett a contract extension | ProFootballTalk

Coach Haz was given an extension back in September. It is believed to run through the 2013 season. He was obviously in the last year of his contract before the 2012 season began.

I cant beleive i forgot all about the "Raheem Morris taking over playcalling duties" drama. Winning will do that do ya.

[htownskinfan]

There needs to be a 3rd option in the poll beside yes or no,like not quite yet.
If the Shanaplan was to suck so bad that would end up with RG3 then it was a great plan.Yes were on a nice winning streak but im not getting carried away.Im not quite ready to forget the Mcnabb fiasco and the way the whole thing was handled.The whole Haynesworth thing,switching to the 3-4 made no sense and pissed off your 100 million dollar player,those are 2 major f ckups im not ready to forget just because weve won a few games in a row.
The other little things that plagued Mike since he's been here like clock management and on field descisions like when to throw flag for instant replay,have improved slightly during win streak but not by much.
Theres been a few things ive had problems with but we won the games so they were rendered mute.
Then theres the leading the league in penalties,is that on the coach?
Im happy with the progress weve made and I think Mike and Kyle have improved over the winning streak but Im not ready to click on yes or no just yet

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

There needs to be a 3rd option in the poll beside yes or no,like not quite yet.
If the Shanaplan was to suck so bad that would end up with RG3 then it was a great plan.Yes were on a nice winning streak but im not getting carried away.Im not quite ready to forget the Mcnabb fiasco and the way the whole thing was handled.The whole Haynesworth thing,switching to the 3-4 made no sense and pissed off your 100 million dollar player,those are 2 major f ckups im not ready to forget just because weve won a few games in a row.
The other little things that plagued Mike since he's been here like clock management and on field descisions like when to throw flag for instant replay,have improved slightly during win streak but not by much.
Theres been a few things ive had problems with but we won the games so they were rendered mute.
Then theres the leading the league in penalties,is that on the coach?
Im happy with the progress weve made and I think Mike and Kyle have improved over the winning streak but Im not ready to click on yes or no just yet

Let's not forget entering last year with John Beck/Rex Grossman as the starting QB. That one is going to take time to live down.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

Let's not forget entering last year with John Beck/Rex Grossman as the starting QB. That one is going to take time to live down.

As bad as that was, it allowed us to suck enough to get the high 1st and 2nd from last year along with the 2013 and 2014 #1's that allowed us to pull off the trade to get RGIII. Some bad things things happen for a good reason.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

There needs to be a 3rd option in the poll beside yes or no,like not quite yet.
If the Shanaplan was to suck so bad that would end up with RG3 then it was a great plan.Yes were on a nice winning streak but im not getting carried away.Im not quite ready to forget the Mcnabb fiasco and the way the whole thing was handled.The whole Haynesworth thing,switching to the 3-4 made no sense and pissed off your 100 million dollar player,those are 2 major f ckups im not ready to forget just because weve won a few games in a row.
The other little things that plagued Mike since he's been here like clock management and on field descisions like when to throw flag for instant replay,have improved slightly during win streak but not by much.
Theres been a few things ive had problems with but we won the games so they were rendered mute.
Then theres the leading the league in penalties,is that on the coach?
Im happy with the progress weve made and I think Mike and Kyle have improved over the winning streak but Im not ready to click on yes or no just yet

Those negative things you point out were legitimate issues back then and Shanahan did f-up some those things himself. However if you look at the way the team is performing on the field now compared to the final year of Zorn or even the first year and half of Shanahan, the team has improved immensely. That is the most important thing that the team is playing well. Not those old past issues that we have since overcome. It was a journey we had to take to shed the losing ways and culture we had in DC. All that other shit is in the past. We have a fairly talented up and coming young team. That is Shanahan and Allen.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Are you now convinced the Redskins are a complete team?

^ After reading this I thought it might make for some interesting discussion here.

Funny how just 5 weeks ago we were discussing blowing the whole thing up... Now where do you stand?

I would say that with the current 5 (4?) game win streak, it would be hard to say that things have not gotten better on the squad as a whole. Our defense still scares me, but I believe that Shanahan knows that at minimum, he needs one solid corner, one solid safety, and another solid tackle to say this team is a true to god contender. If we just had better safety play this year, I think we could be heading into week 16 with 10 or 11 wins. I am astonished at how the team has turned around, with the losing streak and the reports of him losing some key players confidence. That being said, it sure does feel good to have a team that is competitive week in and week out. I am changing my tune on how Shanahan is building up this team, and gladly. With RG3, Almo and our solid recievers, offense shouldn't be a problem for at least 6-7 years. Now, we just need one more solid corner and one more solid safety, and this team is looking at double digit wins and playoff runs year after year.