Set it all aside -- Training Camp Begins

[SirLK26]

Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

G Josh LeRibeus: One teammate said that LeRibeus has been much better, that because he stayed all year in Ashburn he was able to get in the sort of shape necessary. LeRibeus has looked solid in camp. You don’t see the brain cramps that he’d have as a rookie. And you certainly don’t see the extra weight from last season. Had he played like this last summer, he’d be starting right now at one of the guard spots. LeRibeus has worked at both left and right guard with the No. 2 offense.

Maybe LeRibeus takes over RG? Long probably won't be ready and the guy we had last year sucks, although from what I've heard it sounds like he's having a solid camp. Still, it'd be huge to have LeRibeus in the starting lineup over that guy we had last year.

[Terpfan76]

As far as Rambo goes, I keep seeing him listed as FS but he looks more like a SS to me. He seems like a physical guy that would play better down hill than as a centerfield type player. Am I wrong in that assessment? He seems to have to the tools to be a good player, but not the fundamentals. I would hope that could be taught but then again, he shouldn't have to be taught things like that in the NFL.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Terpfan76

As far as Rambo goes, I keep seeing him listed as FS but he looks more like a SS to me. He seems like a physical guy that would play better down hill than as a centerfield type player. Am I wrong in that assessment? He seems to have to the tools to be a good player, but not the fundamentals. I would hope that could be taught but then again, he shouldn't have to be taught things like that in the NFL.

I don't think he has shown that he can tackle on this NFL to be considered a SS. From what I was told he was more known for being a deep safety than anything else.

[Terpfan76]

Originally Posted by donofriose

I don't think he has shown that he can tackle on this NFL to be considered a SS. From what I was told he was more known for being a deep safety than anything else.

Fair enough. Perhaps avoiding attempting highlight reel hits would benefit him too.

[tshile]

It appears the key people in the organization didn't read the forum rules about putting it behind.

This is embarrassing to me as a fan.

[over the mountain]

Washington Redskins rookie kicker Zach Hocker has head shaved - ESPN



i personally prefer the cut tebow got but this one is pretty good to. nice to see the dolphins fiasco hasnt killed rookie hazing totally.

[calia]

Wonder if Hocker makes the team. Would be insult to injury to get that haircut and then get really cut.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by calia

Wonder if Hocker makes the team. Would be insult to injury to get that haircut and then get really cut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EghKL4WFOvE


I'd say he got a shot

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EghKL4WFOvE


I'd say he got a shot

I think he has the edge, but that's just my speculation

[ethat001]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think he has the edge, but that's just my speculation

From Saturday's practice:

Not a good day for Forbath, who hit each upright when attempting field goals later in the day, from 34 and 40 yards. Meanwhile, rookie Zach Hocker hit from 35, 41 and 54 yards – all down the middle. Forbath’s 53-yarder was a low liner; Hocker’s was a deep drive.
Washington Redskins practice report - ESPN

Interesting battle, won't be able to tell until games.. So hard to consider moving on from a kicker who's already in the Hall of Fame (Forbath) for making 17 in a row and leading the league in FG% in 2012, and making his last 13 FG last year..

But honestly, even the worst FG kickers usually still make 70% of FG, and average for kickers is about 85% (which is around Forbath's average for 2 years). Going from top 10 to just average FG kicking would be about 2-3 FG for the year, or missing 6-9 points total for the year. In contrast we gave up a kick return touchdown last year. Not to mention field position battle is huge for the game. I'd bet if Hocker stays halfway decent, he'd be better for us in the long run.

[CRedskinsRule]

Pretty good article on Clark and Moss:

Redskins Ryan Clark and Santana Moss go extra mile to survive in NFL in their mid-30s - The Washington Post

I have to admit, I am hoping that Ryan Clark's leadership adds a dimension to our safety play that has been lacking for a Loooooong time.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Pretty good article on Clark and Moss:

Redskins Ryan Clark and Santana Moss go extra mile to survive in NFL in their mid-30s - The Washington Post

I have to admit, I am hoping that Ryan Clark's leadership adds a dimension to our safety play that has been lacking for a Loooooong time.

Ryan Clark was a great, albeit temporary, addition to the defense. I think it was Hall who mentioned a few days ago how much a leader like Clark was already helping the young guys at safety. He(if it was in fact Hall) mentioned how they hadn't had a leader like Clark to learn from last year.


I found this quote from your link extremely interesting:

The Redskins’ front office has also gotten serious about players’ nutrition. In the early years of Daniel Snyder’s ownership, players were fed fast-food and boxed lunches provided by Bojangles’ and Chicken Out.

Under Allen, the team has hired a registered dietician and chef and built an elaborate kitchen and dining hall at Redskins Park that prepares three meals daily for players and coaches.

Wow, really? Fast food? No wonder we've sucked so long.

[MTK]

Leadership is nice but whether Clark can still play at a high level is what really matters.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Leadership is nice but whether Clark can still play at a high level is what really matters.

Not meaning to sound like Jeff George but this whole "leadership" thing is getting so tiresome. We need guys like Thomas and Robinson, 2nd and 3rd year guys need to be playing. They don't need guys in their mid 30's telling how to go to the bathroom. These are grown ass men. It's nice to have some old guys around that contribute but we're not winning with Moss and Clark. Or another year from Fletcher. It's the young guys like Amerson, Robinson, Thomas and so on that need to take that next step. Are their any old guys in Seattle's secondary? Clark was on the street for a reason and I didn't see a lot of teams fighting for his services.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not meaning to sound like Jeff George but this whole "leadership" thing is getting so tiresome. We need guys like Thomas and Robinson, 2nd and 3rd year guys need to be playing. They don't need guys in their mid 30's telling how to go to the bathroom.These are grown ass men. It's nice to have some old guys around that contribute but we're not winning with Moss and Clark. Or another year from Fletcher. It's the young guys like Amerson, Robinson, Thomas and so on that need to take that next step. Are their any old guys in Seattle's secondary? Clark was on the street for a reason and I didn't see a lot of teams fighting for his services.

No, yeah, I think they can use the bathroom just fine by themselves. Will that linebacker pick up the coverage on that back, though? Will that safety adjust to what that receiver just did? Does the 2nd year corner see what any veteran would see looking into the backfield? We don't need a bunch of 30 year-olds out there, but the young guys do need leaders. You point to Seattle's relatively young defense, but Richard Sherman and the rest of those guys communicate constantly, unlike our defense. Clark will be an absolute asset this year. Better than any safety we have, an excellent communicator on defense, and an excellent mentor for the young guys.