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Old 09-15-2015, 11:06 AM   #1
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Re: Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

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Heard this stat coming into work...Since Special Teams Coach Danny Smith was fired we have had 9 Kickoff/Punt Returns for TDs in 33 games. The next closest team has 5 in that time span.


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Danny was never really the ST issue. It says something when a team like the Steelers jumps at hiring at guy when you fire him.
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Old 09-15-2015, 12:57 PM   #2
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Danny was never really the ST issue. It says something when a team like the Steelers jumps at hiring at guy when you fire him.

Danny is a quality ST coach, he definitely wasn't the issue here.
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Old 09-15-2015, 01:01 PM   #3
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Danny is a quality ST coach, he definitely wasn't the issue here.
god you remember Shanny replaced him with Keith Burns who was a flippin nightmare. from wiki: "In his first coaching position Keith Burns' Special Teams unit struggled during 2013 season. According to Football Outsiders, under Burns' leadership, the Washington Redskins' Special Teams unit finished the 2013 regular season ranked last in points compared to league average"
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Old 09-15-2015, 03:20 PM   #4
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Danny is a quality ST coach, he definitely wasn't the issue here.
Didn't Danny leave becaus he wanted to be closer to his aging parents. (Just from my aging memory)
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Old 09-15-2015, 05:46 PM   #5
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Didn't Danny leave becaus he wanted to be closer to his aging parents. (Just from my aging memory)
he left, i don't believe he was fired. in an interview he basically said he didn't want to be part of a full staff firing, and he saw that coming. (it's easier to land another job if you already have one, without the "i just got fired for incompetence" stigma).

^ this interview was when he thought (for some reason) he had a good shot at the DC head coaching job. he's been one of our better ST coaches (not that that's saying much).
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Danny is a quality ST coach, he definitely wasn't the issue here.
Found something I was wrong about. Off to the "I was wrong thread.."
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Re: Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

Talk about the frying pan to the fire
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Old 09-15-2015, 12:51 PM   #8
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On a separate note, sounds like the depth chart was re-done. A little surprising (to me, at least) to see Robinson filling in for Ihenacho instead of Johnson (is that guy in the witness protection program?). Crowder has now displaced Roberts as the PR -- good news as far as I am concerned.
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On a separate note, sounds like the depth chart was re-done. A little surprising (to me, at least) to see Robinson filling in for Ihenacho instead of Johnson (is that guy in the witness protection program?). Crowder has now displaced Roberts as the PR -- good news as far as I am concerned.
Trent Murphy needs to take a backseat to Preston Smith

Trenton Robinson has been a better player than Jeron. Thats just a fact...
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Yeah trent has no pass rush at all
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Re: Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

I was trying to get a little work done so I decided to only watch when the Redskins were on offense and everything else I listened on the radio in my workshop. What is wrong with the kick coverage? Is it mental mistakes, like players not staying in their lanes and taking bad pursuit angles or are they getting blocked, outrun, and run over? Hopefully it is the former as that is coachable the later needs new players.
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Old 09-15-2015, 01:47 PM   #12
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-Some of the penalities were because players (TEs) were put in positions where the coaches should have realized there was potential for them to stuggle. Gotta have a better solution for blocking the POA. Neither Reed nor Carier are known for their blocking, putting them out there and expecting better results was a coaching mistake.
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Old 09-15-2015, 02:25 PM   #13
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-Some of the penalities were because players (TEs) were put in positions where the coaches should have realized there was potential for them to stuggle. Gotta have a better solution for blocking the POA. Neither Reed nor Carier are known for their blocking, putting them out there and expecting better results was a coaching mistake.
Considering they are the only TE's we have, I'd say they didn't have much choice. McCoy can block but he isn't fully up to speed yet.
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Old 09-15-2015, 03:16 PM   #14
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Considering they are the only TE's we have, I'd say they didn't have much choice. McCoy can block but he isn't fully up to speed yet.
I understand that they were the only TEs available (which is a different issue on its own). But I would say going into a game knowing those were the only TEs available and that neither are good blockers then you shouldn't call plays that force them to make critical blocks in the run game. You make adjustments. For example GB and Seattle both use 3 wide receivers a RB and FB in I or Offset I and no TE in their run game. That's an adjustment.

Putting players in position where they are overmatched is how you end up with holding penalties from the TE spots and some failed runs due to their failed blocks.

The TE blocking is an issue they have to figure out becuase the next the Ram's actually have a good run defense unlike the Miami's whose run defense is only average.

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I understand that they were the only TEs available (which is a different issue on its own). But I would say going into a game knowing those were the only TEs available and that neither are good blockers then you shouldn't call plays that force them to make critical blocks in the run game. You make adjustments. For example GB and Seattle both use 3 wide receivers a RB and FB in I or Offset I and no TE in their run game. That's an adjustment.

Putting players in position where they are overmatched is how you end up with holding penalties from the TE spots and some failed runs due to their failed blocks.

The TE blocking is an issue they have to figure out becuase the next the Ram's actually have a good run defense unlike the Miami's whose run defense is only average.
The only plays where a TE isn't blocking is a pass play where they are running a route.

If Gruden stopped calling runs with our TEs in the game you guys would bash him for being too predictable and being a dumb ass.
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