Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.

[MTK]

Even with the win we actually moved up in draft position from 4 to 3.


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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

Even with the win we actually moved up in draft position from 4 to 3.


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yep so overall a great weekend of football lol

[Chico23231]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...n-bruce-allen/

Trent talking mad shit about Bruce Allen.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...n-bruce-allen/

Trent talking mad shit about Bruce Allen.

From the article:

“It just goes to show you how behind the times [Allen] is, and he still tries to use that money to hold it over black athletes,” Williams said.

Screw TW now, totally uncalled for. Now I don't blame Bruce for anything involved in the situation with Trent.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

From the article:

“It just goes to show you how behind the times [Allen] is, and he still tries to use that money to hold it over black athletes,” Williams said.

Screw TW now, totally uncalled for. Now I don't blame Bruce for anything involved in the situation with Trent.

Agreed. The entire league knows Bruce Allen is a terrible GM and slimy human being. No news there. But this is crossing the line.

Every time Trent opens his mouth, he makes himself look more and more like the greedy piece of shit he is and making it less and less likely that anyone will trade for him or sign him to a lucrative contract if he were to become a free agent.

This all started last off-season when Trent asked for more money when he still had two years left on his deal. When the team said no, trents cancerous behavior has escalated:
- first, he held out of offseason activities
- he remained silent while he directed his cronies to spread rumors about some wrongdoing in the part Of the medical staff
- he held out of regular season games
- he comes back and publicaly smears the team and medical staff, telling an outrageous story full of contradictions and serious allegations
- when the team requests an independent investigation, Trent refuses to allow it (which no innocent person would do if here was true medical malpractice)
- now he’s accusing the team president of racist actions.

What general manager (most of whom are white men) is going to want to bring in a player who has shown that this is what he will do when he wants more money than you agreed to pay him? Especially when this player is old, injury prone, and one failed drug test away from a 1 year suspension.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Agreed. The entire league knows Bruce Allen is a terrible GM and slimy human being. No news there. But this is crossing the line.

Every time Trent opens his mouth, he makes himself look more and more like the greedy piece of shit he is and making it less and less likely that anyone will trade for him or sign him to a lucrative contract if he were to become a free agent.

This all started last off-season when Trent asked for more money when he still had two years left on his deal. When the team said no, trents cancerous behavior has escalated:
- first, he held out of offseason activities
- he remained silent while he directed his cronies to spread rumors about some wrongdoing in the part Of the medical staff
- he held out of regular season games
- he comes back and publicaly smears the team and medical staff, telling an outrageous story full of contradictions and serious allegations
- when the team requests an independent investigation, Trent refuses to allow it (which no innocent person would do if here was true medical malpractice)
- now he’s accusing the team president of racist actions.

What general manager (most of whom are white men) is going to want to bring in a player who has shown that this is what he will do when he wants more money than you agreed to pay him? Especially when this player is old, injury prone, and one failed drug test away from a 1 year suspension.

There will be plenty of teams more than willing to bring Trent in. He will get paid handsomely for sure.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

There will be plenty of teams more than willing to bring Trent in. He will get paid handsomely for sure.

Before all the drama that Trent has drug up since returning you are probably right (minus the getting paid Handsomely - given his age, injury, and suspension history, he’d never have gotten a deal with multiple years of guaranteed money). But everything he’s said since then is just one ref flag after another. Someone will sign him, but it’s not going to be that great of a deal. It will almost certainly be less than what Trent would have made in 2019 and 2020 had played out his contract here.


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[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

There will be plenty of teams more than willing to bring Trent in. He will get paid handsomely for sure.

Literally talent trumps everything. Has anybody learned anything from watching any sports league in the last 20 years?

You can be associated with a murder (Ray Lewis), you can literally murder puppies (Michael Vick) you can beat your wife/significant other (too many to count). As long as you're talented somebody will sign you (unless you fuck with an owner's cash flow; see Kaepernick, C. Even then he made the decision easier by only being backup-qb talented, not starter talented)

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

From the article:

“It just goes to show you how behind the times [Allen] is, and he still tries to use that money to hold it over black athletes,” Williams said.

Screw TW now, totally uncalled for. Now I don't blame Bruce for anything involved in the situation with Trent.

I am with you 100%. Trent crossed the line. He just looks like a crybaby now whose last resort was to use the race card. Totally uncalled for.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

From the article:



“It just goes to show you how behind the times [Allen] is, and he still tries to use that money to hold it over black athletes,” Williams said.



Screw TW now, totally uncalled for. Now I don't blame Bruce for anything involved in the situation with Trent.

Even if TW had left off the word black, the underlying point is absurd. Of course GMs use contracts and guaranteed money as both carrots and sticks.

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...n-bruce-allen/



Trent talking mad shit about Bruce Allen.

Trent did more for his case when he didn't say anything, and I was one calling for him to speak out.

You try and use the rules by showing up at the last minute and saying you arent going to play, and surprise surprise the team knows how to use the rules too.

That said, I wish he articulated it in a way that DS would hear it and fire BA, but this wasn't it.

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[DYoungJelly]

The exact quote from Sheehan's 12-4-19 pod is he has an informed hunch Bruce will no longer be part of football ops.

He said he had the same informed hunch last year though.

He expects news next week at league meetings.

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[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

The exact quote from Sheehan's 12-4-19 pod is he has an informed hunch Bruce will no longer be part of football ops.

He said he had the same informed hunch last year though.

He expects news next week at league meetings.

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Add to that the multiple reports today that the redskins have reached out to multiple coaching candidates who are concerned about the current front office structure.

However, Snyder can not be counted on to do the smart thing. Time and again, he’s proven to be delusional and stubborn. Given trents most recent attack and the constant media criticism, i could see him keeping Bruce out of spite.





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[skinsfan69]

Not sure I'm w/ Trent on the race thing. Allen screwed over Cousins and low balled him on a ltd.

[Chico23231]

Just enforces the fact Bruce should have traded TW when he had the chance