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Old 12-29-2020, 12:41 PM   #1
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They are all a lot better than Alex now. I don't want Dak, no way we're paying that price tag. Don't really care for Ryan either.

I'd like Stafford if available for a reasonable trade. But to get him we'd definitely have to cut Alex.

At some point, the actual return on investment needs to be part of the calculation. I don't think Alex will give anywhere near 24 million of value next year.

If we can get a rookie we believe in that can actually start, then the money isn't an issue. But if we have to go any other route it will be.

Tricky situation. Because Alex is a great guy and should go out with respect.

In my ideal world he retires, and he gets hired as like a quality control assistant or something and stays with the team. He has future OC/HC written all over him. Would be a cool succession plan in say like 5 years, for him to take over for Rivera. Would give him time to learn the ropes of coaching, although I think he'd be great at it right out the shoot.
I agree, if we can get Stafford for Smith’s contract price I’m all in. Smith would definitely would have to come of the books.
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Old 12-29-2020, 12:19 PM   #2
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Re: Haskins released

Since his injury in 2018 .... weve been waiting for the 2021 offseason to finally be able to cut him.

Alex Smith, nice guy, cute family, congratulations on making 71M for 17 or so starts ... but weve circled this 2021 date on our calendar 2 years ago.

2021 FA is the time to strike. Go all in. Teams in cap hell will have to make some serious cuts to players they otherwise wouldnt. Make 2021 to 2023 a potential window to be NFCE champs for 3 years.

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https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2021/

^^ look at each teams cap position come 2021. 10 teams are negative and that is with only like 40 or so players counting against the cap. They need to ADD players to get to 53.

Saints?? fucked. so fucked. they are negative 96M next year w 45 players on the books

Eagles? negative 64M w 41 players

Falcons? negative 24M w 31 players

Packers and Rodgers? negative 19M w 37 players

** assumes a 175M cap, nfl is adding an extra game next year
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Old 12-29-2020, 12:22 PM   #3
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All depends on what the QB plan is. If it's Alex, Kyle Allen and a rookie, no need to worry about Smith's #. If you're brining in a high priced free agent, yeah, his # becomes a concern.
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Old 12-29-2020, 12:44 PM   #4
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Alex Smith was never the primary choice at QB...nor was Haskins

Kyle Allen has always been the plan for this year. You bring him back

Alex can stay if only he takes a big pay cut.
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Old 12-29-2020, 01:05 PM   #5
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Re: Haskins released

A Taylor Heinicke/Kyle Allen showdown for starting QB role in 2021?

QB situation is very complex if we win Sunday and a lot easier if we lose. Those 9 or so spots change the whole equation. Sunday has impacts all over the place.
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Joe knows:

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...going-cost-you

I would not pay Stafford, Ryan or Dak $40mil, no way!!
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Old 12-29-2020, 01:27 PM   #7
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A Taylor Heinicke/Kyle Allen showdown for starting QB role in 2021?

QB situation is very complex if we win Sunday and a lot easier if we lose. Those 9 or so spots change the whole equation. Sunday has impacts all over the place.
I'm fine bringing them in as long as a rookie is drafted.
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Old 12-29-2020, 01:35 PM   #8
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I have a feeling that our starting QB next year will be a veteran FA acquisition. Especially if the team makes it to the playoffs.

Our first rounder can be better spent on a LT or MLB.
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I have a feeling that our starting QB next year will be a veteran FA acquisition. Especially if the team makes it to the playoffs.

Our first rounder can be better spent on a LT or MLB.
I'm cool with that, Matt Ryan would be a great 2 year fit
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I'm cool with that, Matt Ryan would be a great 2 year fit
Matt Ryan is not a FA and if traded for would cost us high draft pics for a 2 to 3 year player . . . maybe if the price was right as i like Matt Ryan a lot . . . but not at too high a cost to handcuff us for too long. Does Julio Jones come with him?
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This guy is a sleeper and just might slip into the 1st round, he’s a junior not sophomore. From everything I’ve read he has the potential to be better than Trask and Jones. You can watch him Friday on the Peach Bowl. You judge.

https://youtu.be/0HxQalVBZOk
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This guy is a sleeper and just might slip into the 1st round, he’s a junior not sophomore. From everything I’ve read he has the potential to be better than Trask and Jones. You can watch him Friday on the Peach Bowl. You judge.
https://youtu.be/0HxQalVBZOk
I like him. I'll be watching the Peach Bowl.

I don't know if he would come in and play right away, but he is definitely an intriguing prospect that could be had either by trading back into the end of the 1st round à la M. Sweat, or perhaps even with their 2nd round pick.
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I have a feeling that our starting QB next year will be a veteran FA acquisition. Especially if the team makes it to the playoffs.

Our first rounder can be better spent on a LT or MLB.
I think if we don’t like a QB in the first round...Stafford, Matt Ryan not available or go somewhere else. Dak stays with Dallas.

I would consider Fitzpatrick over Alex to come in and compete with Kyle Allen who is coming off injury along with a Heineken/mid round draftee.

Fitzpatrick is better than Alex and would be cheaper than his current number.
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I think if we don’t like a QB in the first round...Stafford, Matt Ryan not available or go somewhere else. Dak stays with Dallas.

I would consider Fitzpatrick over Alex to come in and compete with Kyle Allen who is coming off injury along with a Heineken/mid round draftee.

Fitzpatrick is better than Alex and would be cheaper than his current number.
I'd take a flier on Fitz especially if Smith and RR don't see something they like at our draft spots. Agree Dak isn't going anywhere. Dallas knows if he was healthy they probably already had the division wrapped up. Allen and Heinicke in reality probably won't get it done.
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https://www.espn.com/blog/washington/post/_/id/40869
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