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Old 03-23-2021, 02:17 PM   #1
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I dont argue he is here to start, but on a 1 year deal that is clear backup money, I don't see that as a promise he is our starter. Moreso it is hey you are our starter with reservations.

Nothing about his deal says he is more than a bridge qb just in case we don't find one in training camp or through the draft.

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I wouldn't say $10M a year is clear backup money. Dalton just got the same $$ and he's not going to Chicago to be the backup. Clear backup $$ to me is in the ballpark of $2-4M a year, basically what Heinicke is getting.

$10M a year puts them both tied for 19th highest paid in the league for QB's. Not superstar money for sure but not backup either.
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I dont argue he is here to start, but on a 1 year deal that is clear backup money, I don't see that as a promise he is our starter. Moreso it is hey you are our starter with reservations.

Nothing about his deal says he is more than a bridge qb just in case we don't find one in training camp or through the draft.

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It's not really backup money. It's more like low-end starter money. He'll bank more than 13 other projected starters next year. According to Spotrac, Taysom Hill is the only non-starting QB (maybe) that is to make more than Fitz in 2021.

He is a bridge QB, but he's the starter.
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I don't think Fitz would have came here without assurances the starting job would be his to lose.

Ron may talk about a "competition" at least to start off with, but that will be nothing more than coach speak.
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Old 03-23-2021, 02:28 PM   #4
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Re: Fitzmagic Thread

http://www.rosstucker.com/podcasts/r...tball-podcast/

Good listen here from Fitz
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Fitz had the 2nd fastest average time to release in the NFL next year, the avg time between the snap and his release of the ball was 2.37 seconds, 2nd best of all passers with 50 or more dropbacks.

Not a bad fit for an offense that wants to do its damage via YAC.

He also had a 92.7 grade from PFF on throws 20 yards downfield or more.

He's not a starter because he's paid like one, he's a starter because he's much better than people realize, and better than Heinicke.
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Fire that fucking pigskin. Can't wait for the magic show.

Good draft and a couple more depth to solid FA signings and we have a legit chance at double digit wins. C'mon April 29th!!
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Fire that fucking pigskin. Can't wait for the magic show.

Good draft and a couple more depth to solid FA signings and we have a legit chance at double digit wins. C'mon April 29th!!
Yeah wait until he has a couple 3 int games. The spaz outs will be epic around here.
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Yeah wait until he has a couple 3 int games. The spaz outs will be epic around here.
I'm already locked in for at least 4 games of multiple INT's. Hopefully he doesn't blow his load in like the 1st 6 weeks. McLaurin going for 1400+ this year. Going official superstar status.
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Yeah wait until he has a couple 3 int games. The spaz outs will be epic around here.
+1

He's always good for a couple every year. I'm just hoping his ratio of good games to bad games is 3/1. If he does that we can contend for the division title (still don't think we can keep up with the TB's of the world though).

Real talk though, when Fitz was drafted in 2005 did anybody think 16 years later he'd be starting for the WFT? Hell of a story for him.
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Yeah wait until he has a couple 3 int games. The spaz outs will be epic around here.
Hopefully he can keep those games to a minimum here, but it will probably happen. I think that this team, specifically the defense, is built to overcome it though when it does happen.

WFT QBs had five games with at least two INTs, and three games with 3 INTs last year.

You will be hard pressed to find a NFL starter who doesn't do that from time to time.
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Hopefully he can keep those games to a minimum here, but it will probably happen. I think that this team, specifically the defense, is built to overcome it though when it does happen.

WFT QBs had five games with at least two INTs, and three games with 3 INTs last year.

You will be hard pressed to find a NFL starter who doesn't do that from time to time.
If you're gonna have an aggressive QB, matching him up with a good defense is the best option. There will also be games where he's on fire and we drop 21 points by half and our defense just puts the other teams QB's dick in the dirt.

We will be exciting. With exciting play comes some eggs.

I'll take it this year.
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Ultimately, Fitz will either be one of the lowest paid non-rookie starters, or one of the highest paid veteran backups.

And for the WFT, he brings good options to the hardest position for this team to fill.
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There absolutely should be a competition. Yes Heinecke was a one off, but Fitz is on a 1 year deal and is 38. They should bring in a late round rookie, and let them compete mainly so we know what we have in 2022.

Also, of course you go for Stafford over Heinicke that is a no brainer. But Fitz isnt Stafford, he is on his 9th team for a reason. If he wins the starting job that is fine and in 2022 we are back to the whole qb drawing board.

I think some of this discussion assumes I or others are arguing for Heinicke. I am not. I am saying the goal of the coaching staff should be to find a long term solution at the qb, and you do that through competition. Until we have a qb we can seriously count on for 3-4 years minimum there should be competition every year.

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There absolutely should be a competition. Yes Heinecke was a one off, but Fitz is on a 1 year deal and is 38. They should bring in a late round rookie, and let them compete mainly so we know what we have in 2022.

Also, of course you go for Stafford over Heinicke that is a no brainer. But Fitz isnt Stafford, he is on his 9th team for a reason. If he wins the starting job that is fine and in 2022 we are back to the whole qb drawing board.

I think some of this discussion assumes I or others are arguing for Heinicke. I am not. I am saying the goal of the coaching staff should be to find a long term solution at the qb, and you do that through competition. Until we have a qb we can seriously count on for 3-4 years minimum there should be competition every year.

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WFT signing Fitz doesn't end the search for a QB of the future. Every team is looking for a QB of the future even teams like KC, and Balt. WFT needed a QB for the present, because it didn't have one, and Fitz is now that guy.
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