Black Monday 2022 thread

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

So who thinks this Brian Flores lawsuit could potentially be a big problem for the NFL? If he can prove that he was offered/paid money to LOSE games? That has to have some ramifications right?

Messing with Vegas money lines, integrity of the game .... this thing has tentacles.

Would love Brian to come here and replace Del Rio. he knows hes sacrificing his career for the greater good of POC candidates to follow.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Messing with Vegas money lines, integrity of the game .... this thing has tentacles.

Would love Brian to come here and replace Del Rio. he knows hes sacrificing his career for the greater good of POC candidates to follow.

If Snyder hired him, the other owners might finally make Snyder sell. I don't want Flores to be involved in our Snyder shit.

But if we were owned by any other guy (not including Ross) I'd hire him easily.

[MTK]

Flores just opened a huge can of whoop ass on the NFL no doubt. They've got a lot of explaining to do. Pretty brave of him because his NFL career is probably toast no matter if he's right or wrong.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by MTK

Flores just opened a huge can of whoop ass on the NFL no doubt. They've got a lot of explaining to do. Pretty brave of him because his NFL career is probably toast no matter if he's right or wrong.

He also set himself up ,his lawyers are shit. Suing the Giants,Broncos and Miami and the NFL for Racial discrimination but failed to report that Miami Owner (supposedly) offered him $100,000 per game to lose .Suing Denver for not being hired in2019? Giants gave him not one but two interviews as they did two other people. Rooney rule is a joke.

[Chico23231]

As I expected today, a lot of feelings expressed by Brian Flores and lawyers , but very little facts. Timelines and interviews with both the Giants and Broncos doesn’t support a claim. Also Vance Johnson had just been given 2 years with Denver and that’s the vacancy he was interviewing for.

Miami should be in deep shit with their tanking claims…but one thing I don’t understand is why Flores wouldn’t recruit the greatest QB to come there?

I think the Rooney rule does a lot of good. Maybe just get rid of it. Flores got a HC job for 3 years and seemed to be a surprise hire at the time.

There are 32 HC jobs…a small number. The NFL could open an investigation/case study into why each HC got his job. Look at the timing, the candidates, etc. And then present the results to the league.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Miami should be in deep shit with their tanking claims…but one thing I don’t understand is why Flores wouldn’t recruit the greatest QB to come there?

Free agency period hadn't started yet and it would've been tampering.

[CrustyRedskin]

Makes you wonder how much Joe Judge got paid for those QB sneaks.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

As I expected today, a lot of feelings expressed by Brian Flores and lawyers , but very little facts. Timelines and interviews with both the Giants and Broncos doesn’t support a claim. Also Vance Johnson had just been given 2 years with Denver and that’s the vacancy he was interviewing for.

Miami should be in deep shit with their tanking claims…but one thing I don’t understand is why Flores wouldn’t recruit the greatest QB to come there?

I think the Rooney rule does a lot of good. Maybe just get rid of it. Flores got a HC job for 3 years and seemed to be a surprise hire at the time.

There are 32 HC jobs…a small number. The NFL could open an investigation/case study into why each HC got his job. Look at the timing, the candidates, etc. And then present the results to the league.

People hire people they feel comfortable with. People who see the things the way they do .In the case of the Giants Mara has been getting shit for butting in, well he gave full control to the new GM. Mara wanted Flores ,the new guy wanted Deboll . Flores was being interviewed this morning and couldn't answer any questions. If he is telling the truth then why not report the owner of the Dolphins for the bounty offer and you now want to sue the Broncos because of a job interview from 2019????WTF?

[skinsfan69]

Get rid of the Rooney Rule and quit making a mockery out of this hiring process. Quit making these guys do interviews when they're never going to be hired.

Regarding McDaniels, it's called white privilege. What else is it if it isn't that? The guy totally bombed in Denver. He got caught up in a video taping issue. He pissed off everyone there and traded Cutler who at the time was a franchise QB. Didn't do shit in St. Louis when he was the OC, then finally leaves Indy hanging.. Yet year after year he has his pick of NFL jobs. What a joke.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Get rid of the Rooney Rule and quit making a mockery out of this hiring process. Quit making these guys do interviews when they're never going to be hired.

Regarding McDaniels, it's called white privilege. What else is it if it isn't that? The guy totally bombed in Denver. He got caught up in a video taping issue. He pissed off everyone there and traded Cutler who at the time was a franchise QB. Didn't do shit in St. Louis when he was the OC, then finally leaves Indy handing.. Yet year after year he has his pick of NFL jobs. What a joke.

Not to mention backing out of the Colts HC, which he got not long after he had tanked in Denver.

[Chief X_Phackter]

The lack of minority coaches and executives in the NFL has been a joke for a long time. They made it even more of a joke by implementing this Rooney rule that most teams just circumvent and hire who they want anyway.

Kudos to Flores for shining a brighter light on that, at his own (huge) expense. Can't imagine the feeling, sitting through an interview for your dream job, knowing that every person in the room knows you aren't getting the job, and you are just there because you are black, and that's the rule.

This league just continues to impress...

[SFREDSKIN]

Happy for O'Connell too bad it wasn't us.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-...013222601.html

[BaltimoreSkins]

Here is a time line and explanation of how Flores was used to fulfill the Rooney Rule https://larrybrownsports.com/footbal...ent/591390?amp

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Here is a time line and explanation of how Flores was used to fulfill the Rooney Rule https://larrybrownsports.com/footbal...ent/591390?amp

Yup looks like what you might expect. Being mad is fine, but the due diligence was done with multiple minority candidates. When the guy from Buffalo was made GM..the other Brian become the understandable favorite.

Flores did a good job In Miami…but u read why he was fired there by respectable journalists like Jeff Darlington, he had a lot of problems in the front the office and he wasn’t well like in the locker room including the QB. He needs a change of scenery with a better org. Maybe the Saints..,think that would be a good fit

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yup looks like what you might expect. Being mad is fine, but the due diligence was done with multiple minority candidates. When the guy from Buffalo was made GM..the other Brian become the understandable favorite.

Flores did a good job In Miami…but u read why he was fired there by respectable journalists like Jeff Darlington, he had a lot of problems in the front the office and he wasn’t well like in the locker room including the QB. He needs a change of scenery with a better org. Maybe the Saints..,think that would be a good fit

Looking at the time line I would agree that I don't see racism at play but it is possible there is a violation of the Rooney Rule. If Daboll was hired at the time estimated none of the minority candidates were interviewed until after the hire. Only Frazier and Flores in person meet the requirements. If there is evidence other than the Belichick text it could be an issue for the Giants as a violation but I don't see racism. I looked into it there is precedent for a penalty levied, the 2003 Detroit Lions. Reading this though it is up to interpretation by the commissioners office and I don't expect Goodell to do anything to his buddy Mara

Interesting look at Rooney Rule and how enforcement can be implemented
https://www.acslaw.org/wp-content/up...ssue_Brief.pdf