All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix)

kinobom · 10-05-2005, 01:40 PM

>>Snyder will make his life hell as a Redskin. Maybe what Coles said was true, cause it seems to me that he is carrying it out on Lavar.>>

>>So what are the facts??? IMHO, I believe the skins realized that they don't need $11+M tied to one player, when that player is replaceable by a system. Secondly, I think what makes arrington so attractive to alot of teams is also the reason why he is not attractive to Williams/Lindsay.>>

Firstly (to the first quote) do we want this kind of Owner? I know, I know... it is a rhetorical question. We are Stuck with him.
Secondly - Shouldn't we be thinking about the future? Won't it be about time for Williams to get another chance to be a head coach after this season? What if our next Def. Coordinator prizes LA's Style of play. OBC spermier got rid of Steve Davis and boy, Joe Gibbs sure would have liked to have had SD last year.

#56fanatic · 10-05-2005, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bertoskins

What position do you think we we fill in:

1. another Stout DT
2. Pass rushing end
3. Big offensive line
4. another speedy wide receiver
5. another TE
6. A high draft pick

A stud passrusher!! Which if nothing else, use Lavar.. Remember when Marvin Lewis used him as a DE, he registered 11 sacks. and that was as a part time DE.

Hog1 · 10-05-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Snyder and Arrington are supposedly very tight, I'm not sure how the whole contract dispute thing may have hurt their relationship, but LaVar was a pallbearer at Snyder's father's funeral if that tells you anything.

Exactly!!! That's why it cannot be a Danny thing. Additionally, It will take a lot more than I have read thus far to convince me that our coaching staff would be involved in some kind of nefarious plot, and conspire to keep Lavar off the field for illegitimate reasons. There is NO payoff for the Redskins?

12thMan · 10-05-2005, 01:43 PM

I don't really care at this point. I just know two things:

1. I want LaVar and his huge asssss contract to stay here in D.C. I think it will go a long way in terms breeding a culture of tenured Redskins for life, if there is such a thing. (ref. to an earlier post)

2. I want him to rip Plummer's ass on Sunday!!!

12thMan · 10-05-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kinobom

>>Snyder will make his life hell as a Redskin. Maybe what Coles said was true, cause it seems to me that he is carrying it out on Lavar.>>

>>So what are the facts??? IMHO, I believe the skins realized that they don't need $11+M tied to one player, when that player is replaceable by a system. Secondly, I think what makes arrington so attractive to alot of teams is also the reason why he is not attractive to Williams/Lindsay.>>

Firstly (to the first quote) do we want this kind of Owner? I know, I know... it is a rhetorical question. We are Stuck with him.
Secondly - Shouldn't we be thinking about the future? Won't it be about time for Williams to get another chance to be a head coach after this season? What if our next Def. Coordinator prizes LA's Style of play. OBC spermier got rid of Steve Davis and boy, Joe Gibbs sure would have liked to have had SD last year.

I doubt Williams is going anywhere next year. He's well paid here - and could very well be Gibbs' heir appearant. Plus he loves himself some Sean Taylor

12thMan · 10-05-2005, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

Exactly!!! That's why it cannot be a Danny thing. Additionally, It will take a lot more than I have read thus far to convince me that our coaching staff would be involved in some kind of nefarious plot, and conspire to keep Lavar off the field for illegitimate reasons. There is NO payoff for the Redskins?

....nefarious, I like that word. Don't mean to sound ignorant, but tell me the meaning.

kinobom · 10-05-2005, 01:57 PM

A couple of points:

Well as I said yesterday we all feel so strongly about LA b/c we have been told on so many levels since he was drafted how he is Mr. Redskin.

I feel many Pro Bowl Selections are soooo political and unfortunately have sooo little to do with how a player really did during the season. Funny how winning teams place far more players on the PB roster than teams that do mediocre. On some level it is a self fulfilling prophecy. But a playmaker on a 4-12 team is the same as a playmaker on a 12-4 team is he not?

Boy as Redskin fans we always seem to need some sort of controversy to get all steamed up about. Last few weeks it was Ramsey v. Brunell now it is LA v. Williams/Lindsey/Synder/First Ladies of Football and God knows who else.

I do like the fact though that if the fans/media start getting super riled about this situation and it becomes a distraction then maybe we will have a resolution thru conflict.

Hog1 · 10-05-2005, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

....nefarious, I like that word. Don't mean to sound ignorant, but tell me the meaning.

I must admit, I like the way it sounds too!

ADJECTIVE:

Infamous by way of being extremely wicked

offiss · 10-05-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

WAY OFF DUDE!! dont you remember the way the organization hyped him up when they drafted him. The next LT, the next great thing. Dont you remember the LA thing, the #56 jersey they gave him on the draft stage. This is what they wanted him to be. Now all of the sudden, this is the wrong way to be. He is a team guy and will do anything they ask. If he goes to another team, the Redskins are making a mistake beyond measurement.

Sorry but I am dead on, the key word you used is HYPED, and that's exactly what I have been saying all along Lavar is a product of hype, he's a tremendous physical specimen, who really has no instinks as a football player.

Yes everyone in and out of the organazation has hyped Lavar since he's come into the league, and he hasen't remotly earned it, as far as the next LT? Let's not embarasse Lavar with that comparison, LT used to drive and knock offensive tackles on their a**, Lavar get's locked up by TE's, like any other LB.

MTK · 10-05-2005, 02:14 PM

I'm just happy the R vs. B thing has cooled off for now.

On to the next controversy!!

#56fanatic · 10-05-2005, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

Sorry but I am dead on, the key word you used is HYPED, and that's exactly what I have been saying all along Lavar is a product of hype, he's a tremendous physical specimen, who really has no instinks as a football player.

Yes everyone in and out of the organazation has hyped Lavar since he's come into the league, and he hasen't remotly earned it, as far as the next LT? Let's not embarasse Lavar with that comparison, LT used to drive and knock offensive tackles on their a**, Lavar get's locked up by TE's, like any other LB.

WOW, are you serious. They way you are talking he never deserved the probowls? This guy has gone through new defensive coaches every year for the 1st 5 years he was here, and still went to the probowl in 3 of them. Lets not bash the guy for what they wanted him to be. He is not hype, and I dont think neither you or I can say what he has or lacks in "football instinks". This guy has played football his entire life, and we are chatting on a fan website, so lets be real. The man is in his prime, as far as his age, and went through a very bad injury to come back from. He has worked his tail off to be able to contribute to this team and I believe he should be given every opportunity to do so. Look at Urlacher, Zack Thomas, these guys have an injury and dont lose their jobs. I dont see how LaVar can lose his when he was injured. Do you honostly believe he has been given a chance to prove his ability in the defense?

railcon56 · 10-05-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

He is a team guy and will do anything they ask. If he goes to another team, the Redskins are making a mistake beyond measurement.

I have been a Redskins fan since 1971 and if they trade Lavar i dont know what i'd do... to be honest... he's the Redskins best player hands down PERIOD!!!!

EXoffender · 10-05-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

I have been a Redskins fan since 1971 and if they trade Lavar i dont know what i'd do... to be honest... he's the Redskins best player hands down PERIOD!!!!

Uh. If you ask Coach Williams the same he'll tell you that Sean Taylor is the best football player on the team.

offiss · 10-05-2005, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

WOW, are you serious. They way you are talking he never deserved the probowls? This guy has gone through new defensive coaches every year for the 1st 5 years he was here, and still went to the probowl in 3 of them. Lets not bash the guy for what they wanted him to be. He is not hype, and I dont think neither you or I can say what he has or lacks in "football instinks". This guy has played football his entire life, and we are chatting on a fan website, so lets be real. The man is in his prime, as far as his age, and went through a very bad injury to come back from. He has worked his tail off to be able to contribute to this team and I believe he should be given every opportunity to do so. Look at Urlacher, Zack Thomas, these guys have an injury and dont lose their jobs. I dont see how LaVar can lose his when he was injured. Do you honostly believe he has been given a chance to prove his ability in the defense?

Pro-bowls are a big time popularity contest, how many guy's don't get voted in because they are quite and keep out of the headlines [C.Griffen]? Lavar is the opposite, and that's what they want at the pro-bowl personalities, if he didn't come into the league with such hype, and wasen't picked so high, kept his mouth shut and produced the same would he be a 2 time pro-bowler? His best season was at end under Lewis when he managed 11 sacks.

I really don't put much stock in a player making the pro bowl, I want to see production on the field, he's finally being called out as a football player by Williams and he's failing miserably!

#56fanatic · 10-05-2005, 04:57 PM

You are a LaVar hater! I didn't see that thread listed. Some guys, yeah they may get there on popularity but I dont believe LaVar was one of them. As far LaVar being a self promoter, I dont believe he is and dont think there is anything there to say he is. He has never done the things TO on Chad Johnson, Joe Horn, all those guys that do stupid things to get on TV. He goes out and plays, plays hard, and when healthy makes plays. You can not sit there and say he is over hyped(although you are) it will be hard to find a high number of people that say he is overhyped. I hope he gets in this year and proves people like you wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just think yours is wrong. He is a better than average LB, and better that all of the ones we have on our roster(excluding Marcus Washington) was his getting in on popularity? what about Peyton, Shaun Alexander, Tony Gonzalez? I dont see any self promoting there.

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10-05-2005, 01:40 PM	#136
kinobom Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Va. Posts: 9	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) >>Snyder will make his life hell as a Redskin. Maybe what Coles said was true, cause it seems to me that he is carrying it out on Lavar.>> >>So what are the facts??? IMHO, I believe the skins realized that they don't need $11+M tied to one player, when that player is replaceable by a system. Secondly, I think what makes arrington so attractive to alot of teams is also the reason why he is not attractive to Williams/Lindsay.>> Firstly (to the first quote) do we want this kind of Owner? I know, I know... it is a rhetorical question. We are Stuck with him. Secondly - Shouldn't we be thinking about the future? Won't it be about time for Williams to get another chance to be a head coach after this season? What if our next Def. Coordinator prizes LA's Style of play. OBC spermier got rid of Steve Davis and boy, Joe Gibbs sure would have liked to have had SD last year.

10-05-2005, 01:43 PM	#139
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) I don't really care at this point. I just know two things: 1. I want LaVar and his huge asssss contract to stay here in D.C. I think it will go a long way in terms breeding a culture of tenured Redskins for life, if there is such a thing. (ref. to an earlier post) 2. I want him to rip Plummer's ass on Sunday!!!

10-05-2005, 01:57 PM	#142
kinobom Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Va. Posts: 9	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) A couple of points: Well as I said yesterday we all feel so strongly about LA b/c we have been told on so many levels since he was drafted how he is Mr. Redskin. I feel many Pro Bowl Selections are soooo political and unfortunately have sooo little to do with how a player really did during the season. Funny how winning teams place far more players on the PB roster than teams that do mediocre. On some level it is a self fulfilling prophecy. But a playmaker on a 4-12 team is the same as a playmaker on a 12-4 team is he not? Boy as Redskin fans we always seem to need some sort of controversy to get all steamed up about. Last few weeks it was Ramsey v. Brunell now it is LA v. Williams/Lindsey/Synder/First Ladies of Football and God knows who else. I do like the fact though that if the fans/media start getting super riled about this situation and it becomes a distraction then maybe we will have a resolution thru conflict.

10-05-2005, 02:14 PM	#145
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) I'm just happy the R vs. B thing has cooled off for now. On to the next controversy!! __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-05-2005, 04:57 PM	#150
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 50 Posts: 1,801	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) You are a LaVar hater! I didn't see that thread listed. Some guys, yeah they may get there on popularity but I dont believe LaVar was one of them. As far LaVar being a self promoter, I dont believe he is and dont think there is anything there to say he is. He has never done the things TO on Chad Johnson, Joe Horn, all those guys that do stupid things to get on TV. He goes out and plays, plays hard, and when healthy makes plays. You can not sit there and say he is over hyped(although you are) it will be hard to find a high number of people that say he is overhyped. I hope he gets in this year and proves people like you wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just think yours is wrong. He is a better than average LB, and better that all of the ones we have on our roster(excluding Marcus Washington) was his getting in on popularity? what about Peyton, Shaun Alexander, Tony Gonzalez? I dont see any self promoting there.

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