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Old 03-10-2021, 06:10 PM   #1621
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Kirk was the best QB we have had since Joe T.

Stop with the nonsense that he sucked, the GB game was another example. He also just had a hell of a season in MIN without Diggs.. Taylor played great but it was 1 game in a situation where he could take risks because nobody knew who he was. He will most likely not beat out Mariota / Teddy B / Cam (don't kill me Matty) or whoever we draft.
Let’s be real. Kirk’s M.O. is the same now as it has been his entire career. He puts up good numbers in quarters 1-3 but has a bad case of the 4th quarter Tony Romos in big spots. He’s the type of player that will get you most of the way there but won’t finish for you. No one likes that.
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Old 03-10-2021, 06:47 PM   #1622
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Where did you here that? The very reason they brought in Heinicke was that he knew the playbook very well. They had to simplify for Haskins, who just wouldn't learn it, but Heinicke? Don't know where you got that, but it doesn't ring true.
Chris Cooley on his film breakdown after the game. It is one man's opinion but he has forgotten more about football than my eyes know.
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Old 03-10-2021, 06:50 PM   #1623
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Yes but with a completely different cast of characters and limited practice time. Who knows. Maybe that was the best he has got but 1 week of starter reps he did damn good against a solid defense.

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He did great. I don't think that anyone could argue otherwise. I'm saying the playbook probably was not limited for him, because he has played in this offense before...

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Old 03-10-2021, 07:41 PM   #1624
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Washington tenders Kyle Allen...

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/w...ision-looming/

No surprise.

Side note - all three current WFT QBs were undrafted.
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Old 03-11-2021, 03:10 PM   #1625
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Pretty good read: https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/3/9/2...acks-come-from
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Old 03-11-2021, 03:20 PM   #1626
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That was a terrific read particularly this wrap up part
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Finally, perhaps the most remarkable thing about how the league’s elite teams acquired their franchise QBs, given the importance placed on picking high in draft discussions, is that none of these teams acquired their franchise quarterbacks by picking in the top 9 selections of the draft. And only one team drafted its franchise QB before pick 18.*
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Old 03-11-2021, 04:30 PM   #1627
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I look forward to part2 the bottom 6. There are some issues I have with the analysis. The author references the low draft capital used by the teams at QB but if you have stability at the QB position you are going to have lower draft capital over a longer period toward that position.

I would like them to tell us what the average overall for the 32 teams in draft capital as well as the average number of QBs drafted.

My guess is the bottom spend a significantly larger chunk.
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Old 03-11-2021, 11:05 PM   #1628
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Mayhew and Turner are going to Trey Lances pro day. Hope they like him enough to move up
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Old 03-11-2021, 11:45 PM   #1629
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Mayhew and Turner are going to Trey Lances pro day. Hope they like him enough to move up
It's called due diligence. I'm sure they will be at a few more pro days for QB's. I don't want Lance in round one. You simply can not draft him there. Weak competition and he didn't even play last year. Also has run first instincts. If he is there in round 2 then you think about it. He is a 3rd rounder imo.
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Old 03-12-2021, 09:39 AM   #1630
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I just can't believe how excited people can get about Trey Lance. He played one year against lower level competition. Took last year off. And now should be a first round pick ???
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It’s because he has huge upside. Most thought Mahomes wasn’t good either. Not saying he’s ever going to be that but in today’s QB starved league , guys will always go higher than they should.

Also as Matty will be excited to hear, Cam is staying in NE on a 1 year deal per Rap sheet
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QBs will always be overrated and overpaid and some drafted way too early. Not sure why this still surprises some people. People look at Lance and see the next Josh Allen. Small school, big time upside, very raw and will need to be properly developed. He's got the kind of upside that's worth rolling the dice on in the 1st.
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Where do QBs come from part 2: https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/3/11/...me-from-part-2

Pretty good insight into the failures of the bottom 6 teams over the last decade.
I particularly enjoy the advice to Ron Rivera if he wants Washington to remain in the bottom 6.
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Old 03-12-2021, 12:15 PM   #1634
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QBs will always be overrated and overpaid and some drafted way too early. Not sure why this still surprises some people. People look at Lance and see the next Josh Allen. Small school, big time upside, very raw and will need to be properly developed. He's got the kind of upside that's worth rolling the dice on in the 1st.
For every Josh Allen there are 10 or more Dwayne Haskins.
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Old 03-12-2021, 12:27 PM   #1635
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For every Josh Allen there are 10 or more Dwayne Haskins.
Of course, doesn't mean you stop rolling the dice though. If you hit you can hit big.
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