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skins89moss · 08-03-2009, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

I think, just like most of us, the coaches and FO would like to see CB take the second spot. Collins is purely insurance and not in our future plans. His age and contract are not in his favor. Colt cost less and has youth on his side. I personally would love to see him in a real game. I hope IF, JC doesn't work out, Colt will get his chance instead of being bypassed for another QB. Maybe he shines, maybe he bursts his fans bubble, but there's only 1 sure way to find out. But again, I'm not ready to give up on JC just yet.

Please lets not even think JC will not work out as our starter. If he isn't our long term starting QB than we are moving backwards. We can not keep bring in new QB to learn the offense and be a SuperBowl contender. Colt B. is so green that if he had to start at QB we would be toast this year. It's a big risk to let Collins go and think Colt would be able to step in for JC if he could not play. JC has to be our guy, Gibbs gave up a #1 pick for him and he knows QB. He did when 3 Super Bowls with 3 different QB's.

GTripp0012 · 08-01-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

I know the highs and lows can be a factor with the new guys like Thomas and Kelly etc who JC hasnt gotten familiar with but Moss and ARE should be on target. I am worried about him holding the ball too long. He really needs to work on getting the ball out on time. That has been the label on him for a while now and for him to succeed he has to get better in that area IMO.

I don't know about "for a long time". In 2007, he posted a 4.8% sack percentage (anything below 5 is great).

Last year: 7.0%. That needs to recover a little bit because that's a high number. Of course, considering we changed the system on him, the hesitancy would seem to be explained by that.

Sure, the offensive line might get worse in the short term, but if you give him 10 or 11 games, we'll see by Thanksgiving whether Jason is at fault for holding the ball too long or if he's simply doing what he can.

DBUCHANON101 · 08-01-2009, 10:50 PM

Time will tell.

Ruhskins · 08-01-2009, 11:40 PM

Funny that I haven't heard a pip about JC not doing well in camp today. It's the third day peeps, chill the f' out and let the guy play.

GMScud · 08-02-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Funny that I haven't heard a pip about JC not doing well in camp today. It's the third day peeps, chill the f' out and let the guy play.

Agreed. I think JC having one bad practice isn't necessarily a bad thing. QB's have off days. He'll be fine. Apparently he looked crisp and decisive on Thursday and Friday, so it's not like he can't do it. If it continues, I'll be concerned. I doubt it will.

wolfeskins · 08-02-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Agreed. I think JC having one bad practice isn't necessarily a bad thing. QB's have off days. He'll be fine. Apparently he looked crisp and decisive on Thursday and Friday, so it's not like he can't do it. If it continues, I'll be concerned. I doubt it will.

not that i'm concerned but thur. and fri. was in shorts. the first time jason had live action coming at him, he did not perform well.

DBUCHANON101 · 08-02-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

not that i'm concerned but thur. and fri. was in shorts. the first time jason had live action coming at him, he did not perform well.

He had a tough 2 min drill today. One ran out of time and the other he threw a int. And in the QB drills he was knocked down by a barrage of pads. Its still early, we will see how it goes come preseason. Hopefully our defense is JUST THAT GOOD.

skins89moss · 08-03-2009, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Funny that I haven't heard a pip about JC not doing well in camp today. It's the third day peeps, chill the f' out and let the guy play.

Well said. We got Redskins fans ready to put Colt in the starting line up after 1 week of camp. I bet none of them ever played QB at any level , just arm chair QB's. Let the real coaches coach and sit back and just watch and learn.

SirClintonPortis · 08-02-2009, 03:11 AM

Today(Or yesterday, since it is no longer Aug 1) was a very bad day for the O-line. That probably explains why all the QBs didn't have great days.

70Chip · 08-02-2009, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Today(Or yesterday, since it is no longer Aug 1) was a very bad day for the O-line. That probably explains why all the QBs didn't have great days.

This was definitely part of it. Samuel's was having the devil's own day with Orakpo and Haynesworth was giving two men all they could handle every time. Andre Carter was also coming free a couple of times.

In terms of Campbell's performance, I'm totally chill. I think he's the best QB we have. I just don't think he had a paricularly good day, even when you take the O-line into account. Remember that the pass rushers run past and play continues, so even when the O-line got blown it was still basically a 7 on 7 drill.

Lotus · 08-02-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

This was definitely part of it. Samuel's was having the devil's own day with Orakpo and Haynesworth was giving two men all they could handle every time. Andre Carter was also coming free a couple of times.

In terms of Campbell's performance, I'm totally chill. I think he's the best QB we have. I just don't think he had a paricularly good day, even when you take the O-line into account. Remember that the pass rushers run past and play continues, so even when the O-line got blown it was still basically a 7 on 7 drill.

I consider that to be outstanding news, especially the Orakpo part! I know the OL struggled. But the D is always ahead of the O on the first day in pads and we know folks like Samuels will get it together. To me, the salient point of your helpful description is that the D was so dominant - not just good, as expected - but dominant.

tryfuhl · 08-03-2009, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

This was definitely part of it. Samuel's was having the devil's own day with Orakpo and Haynesworth was giving two men all they could handle every time. Andre Carter was also coming free a couple of times.

In terms of Campbell's performance, I'm totally chill. I think he's the best QB we have. I just don't think he had a paricularly good day, even when you take the O-line into account. Remember that the pass rushers run past and play continues, so even when the O-line got blown it was still basically a 7 on 7 drill.

So this means the Orakpo was drilling from DE?

70Chip · 08-03-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

So this means the Orakpo was drilling from DE?

He may have lined up at other spots as well but he was definitely at RE on some plays. (It's hard to watch everything from ground level 40 yards away with Christie Cooley 10 feet in front of you with friends to boot). At one point against shotgun by the offense, the front four from L to R was Carter Daniels Haynesworth Orakpo. You may recall that Daniels played tackle some on 3rd down situations 2 seasons ago and appparently Blache is at least considering doing that again. He certainly isn't too small for it. He's still the biggest guy out there. Maybe Heyer, Dockery and Williams are in his zip code, but Daniels is just humongous.

Monkeydad · 08-04-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

This was definitely part of it. Samuel's was having the devil's own day with Orakpo and Haynesworth was giving two men all they could handle every time. Andre Carter was also coming free a couple of times.

In terms of Campbell's performance, I'm totally chill. I think he's the best QB we have. I just don't think he had a paricularly good day, even when you take the O-line into account. Remember that the pass rushers run past and play continues, so even when the O-line got blown it was still basically a 7 on 7 drill.

Great...then the rest of the league's D-lines (except for the NJ Giants) will be a piece of cake.

Our o-line gets to practice against one of the best defenses in the NFL...that's beneficial, or it should be.

redsk1 · 08-04-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

Great...then the rest of the league's D-lines (except for the NJ Giants) will be a piece of cake.

Our o-line gets to practice against one of the best defenses in the NFL...that's beneficial, or it should be.

That's a positive. The problem is that the D lines in Philly and Dallas are very good too.

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08-02-2009, 03:11 AM	#9
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